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Dan Cleary... the real reason the Griffins won...

2017 CALDER CUP CHAMPS!!!

Is there anyone at this point who doesn't believe Bertuzzi will, and should be, on our NHL roster in the fall? Honest question, and if you exist, what are you watching? He is exactly the type of player we need, and he's got the big game factor. Haven't bought a jersey in a while, thinking about it now...

MVP Tyler Bertuzzi!

It was a very slow game for the Griffs, but they found a way to stay close and finish it off in the 3rd, good game, given the adversity they displayed to not get discouraged and keep fighting back. Congrats Griffins! Now let the Wings have Svechnikov, Bertuzzi, Nosek, and possibly give McIlrath a shot.

lil bert broke the Griffins record for most career playoff goals!

It worked!. Thank you very much!

WHOOOO HOOOO!!! CONGRATS BABY RED WINGS!!!!!

Frk!!! 4-3.

Now score a few more and end this!! GO GRIFFINS!

Callahan! 2-2.

So why not throw in a "worthless" player like Nyquist, Tatar or Helm...

Mantha - Larkin - Tippett Svechnikov - Athanasiou - Svechnikov

Fair enough. But I think you know what I mean. "We'd love to add a real good centerman/defenseman, but those players are real hard to come by. There's no hockey store. You have to draft and develop, that's the surest path to success in the cap era." I don't mean to single out Holland, because every GM says this kind of thing. Because it's largely true. "And yet you feel we should throw valuable assets at Matt Duchene." I don't necessarily feel we should, but, in theory, I'd probably be ok with it. Why? Because Zetterberg is old, Nielsen is old, Larkin is unproven, Athanasiou is probably a career winger, and we don't have any high-end center prospects. We might draft a high-end C prospect with the #9 pick and that player might end up being better than Duchene, or we might draft a high-end D prospect with the #9 pick and that player might end up becoming a legit #1 defenseman. Or the player we draft with that pick could be a bust. Duchene is, at least, a known. At worst, he's a very good 2C. At best, he could become a legitimate 1C. While the Wings haven't been a model of excellence over the past few years, the Avs have been a drunken mess over the past few years, and I do wonder if that hasn't held Duchene back. Also, while the Wings remain good at producing NHL talent, we've produced few truly high-end NHLers over the past decade. Granted, that could be because of our draft positions. But I'm starting to wonder if there isn't more to it than just the lack of top-ten picks. Point being, I don't exactly have the utmost confidence in our drafting and development at this point in time. I don't feel Duchene is hugely superior to Tatar or Nyquist, but I do feel he's the best of the three. And, crucially, he's a centerman. His cap hit is big, but if we're losing a roster player in the expansion draft and moving Tatar/Nyquist out and maybe making a couple minor housekeeping moves, it wouldn't necessarily be a problem. He only has two years remaning on his contract, so it's not like we'd be chaining ourselves to an albatross. If Holland wants to actively try to avoid a long rebuild, I say make a pitch for Duchene and/or [your high-end trade target(s) of choice]. I mean, again, I don't believe we should be making moves just for the sake of making moves. But if there are high-end players on the market and we think they could help our cause, we should seriously explore those options and, perhaps, be prepared to take a calculated risk. I have no problem with the notion that we should use Tatar/Nyquist to upgrade our defense, but, personally, I'm just as concerned about our center situation as I am about our D situation. Zetterberg held our team together this season. That's not sustainable.

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Holland doesn't trade anymore = I don't like the trades Holland makes Ok lol Maybe Chelios can teach JVR to play defense... wait

I agree. If Vegas do end up taking Howard in the expansion draft, I'd be okay with it, but there's no way we should be giving up valuable assets to get rid of him. If we're paying off Vegas to take a contract, it should be for Ericsson, not Howard, who is still a very good goaltender.

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Without these brave men, the Pittsburgh Penguins wouldn't have repeated. The REAL Conn Smythe winners! Excellent, my plan went perfectly

Remember how much crap Holland took when we drafted Bertuzzi? Kid oozes confidence

So... is this a playoff thread or a Martin Frk thread?

This will never be an objective poll, no matter how much people debate 'stats' or trophies or whatever, because personal biases will always play a part. I voted for Yzerman, yes because he was the heart and soul of this franchise until the day he stepped off the ice, but also because he was my hero and I will never NOT think he was the greatest thing to happen to hockey since May 9, 1965. People who voted for others have entirely valid reasons, but they also probably have a soft and squishy. But I will also say that NO other player has people sprung talking about "bring back so-and-so" like Yzerman does. People *still* want him back in this org. Is it because he has proven himself as the most super amazing GM the sport has seen in recent years? You're fooling yourself if you say yes. So what is it? The guy flat out embodies the Wings for so many people that they pine for him over a decade later. That's gotta say something about his importance to this franchise.

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