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Go Wings! Green still not in lineup

I don’t dislike Glendog by any means, but a fourth line center is in no way worth more than a top six winger. If we only got a 3rd for Tatar or Nyquist, I’d be pissed. We don’t need to clear cap. And the only way I could see Glen getting us a 2nd is MAYBE if we retain half his cap hit and send a later pick back the other way. Don’t get me wrong, I would LOVE to get a 2nd for him straight up.. and I’d be damn impressed if we did. But I don’t see that ever happening. I don’t think XO has any trade value. He might even clear waivers.. Also, I agree with wanting an NHL ready prospect or a first for Green but I’m trying to not get my hopes up too high. Hah. Could see it settling to something like what NYR got for Grabner. A lot of fans would probably be disappointed, and I’d like a little more than that, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we got something along those lines.

No is giving a 2nd for disney.com. No one.

Now eventually you might have rumors on your, on your rumor thread, right? Hello? yes?

Mrazek only 1 goal allowed in his debut!!

Page two hype! Bolded: because his contract isn’t expiring and he’s a third pairing caliber d man? Do you actually wonder why or do you just wish he were generating interest? I definitely wish he were too.. but I doubt he even will next year unless he has a great year out of nowhere. Maybe we’ll get a late pick for him; which is fine.. better than nothing.

So I went to last night's game and took my dad along with me and wanted to just update this thread with my thoughts on the place. Beautiful arena, no doubt. My only knock on it is the seating. They really stuffed those seats in there - at 6'0, my knees have never been so cramped. Even my dad at about 5'8" was a little cramped. Still, as much as the seating sucks, it still wouldn't prevent me from going a game there. I also now understand why the arena looks empty on TV. Unbelievable the amount of people that are watching the game from the concourse on the screens! I guess a lot of people go to the game just to be in that environment, but don't really care to watch the game in the bowl, they are content with hanging out in there and watching it on the screens. Curious if this will change when the Wings get good again actually.

I think Hicketts is ready, and would be surprised if he doesn't make the team at some point next season. He would be a good replacement for Daley if we were able to move him, although I know that won't happen. I'm not even necessarily saying we should get rid of Daley, just that it wouldn't make a huge difference either way. Losing Green would make a huge difference. Hronek is likely another full season away, although I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a look at some point between now and then. He may even get a call-up as soon as next week, after Green is traded...

Exactly why it would be dumb to let Green walk. Our defense is a mess right now. Imagine this defense without Green... All of a sudden, our best offensive defenseman is Nick Jensen? That's kind of scary... Again, this team doesn't need more mediocre defensemen (Daley), whether they're young or old. We need difference makers on the blue line (Green), no matter their age.

And his new black/orange/white whatever combo equipment. I’m guessing he’s got a set on the way. All black would be cool, but knowing him, Probly white with orange.

To the bolded: you're the one who said he was a PP specialist on that team, not me. I just said I doubt he played that role on that team because those other guys. Without that history, you're claiming he's going to be our #1 PP guy in place of Green even though he hasn't played that role for a least 3 year, if ever. As for you're larger point at the bottom, Green is a much different defenceman and the situation of the team was different. One big factor is that we already had Green for veteran higher end potential stopgap guy. Also, Everybody around the team and on this forum had been discussing for years the need for an high level offensive puck moving D - for the crappy PP and because it would help the overall system. We'd also been talking about the need for righthanded Dmen (member Babcock said it so much it was mocked). And low and behold Green came as both those things. He was a piece we really lacked. And with him, K, and E, there were still 4 spots for guys on the younger side. When Daley signed it made 4 vets on D: E, K, Green, (5 if you count Wit) and it did take away time from XO, Jensen, (and Sproul could have taken the 7 pot or Hronek by the end of the year...) Many of the younger guys seemed to be rough this year so maybe that's not the worst thing, but it was a legitimate concern and I think it did happen. My complaint was more that it was unnecessary since he's going to be gone by the time we compete, he's not amazing (though he is good), and because we already had Green. I still wish we hadn't signed him - especially if it's true that Green wants to come back. If Daley wasn't here I'd be all in for that, but I'm on the fence now. We will feel Green's absence, though, if he goes. There is a way of hipocrisy for those that want to re-sign Green, though: if people were concerned about Daley pushing out young guys, Sproul was already pushed out and there's a lot of talk of XO being traded (and probably not many want to keep him around) so we don't really need a place for young guys like last year. I'm not really sure which young D men are on deck to make it next year. Hronek, Hicketts are in their 1st and 2nd AHL years respectively, so they seem unlikely. All of Jensen, XO, Sproul were at the end of their entry deals, so it was different.

That's a bit of a stretch. Good solid player, but definitely a tier below Green. Green plays almost 2 minutes more a game (22:16 vs 20:33). That's not "almost the same minutes" Green has 29 pts and 13 PPP while Daley has 9 pts. and 0 PPP Green (2:26) and Kronwall (2:16) are really the only D men getting PP time. Kronwall would probably take Green's spot if Green's not back. Daley is 3rd for Dmen with PP ATOI :30 so maybe he takes the 2nd PP group. https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/DET/2018.html And as for him being a PP specialist with PIT, last year he was behind Schultz, Letang, and Ian Cole in pts. And he was behind Letang, Schultz, and Mark Streit for PP ATOI so that doesn't sound like it. https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/PIT/2017.html

We just had to wriggle a point out of this stinker.

We played tonight?

Blashill post game: ”We just gotta dig in here and find away to finish these games. This is the Bufflo Sabres, second worst team in the league without there besr player. But we can beat any team, I am a big believer, we have elite players like Abby and Ericsson, both scored tonight. They follow my process and that’s why they scored.”

In these ones I always feel a little sorry for the home fans, could have got their monies worth seeing a shoot out but Sabers score with .02 in OT. Obviously being the wings they should know this is how they roll though ...And yaaaayy Petr for his first win, can't wait to see his brand spanking new philly mask when shes done

3 goal Jimmy! Any way of giving the loser point back?

Abby 10 goals on the year!!!!!! All for only 4.5 million a year!!!!!! Also have him for another 5 years!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!

We all need to be cheering for him and the Flyers.

He has to win what, 5 games during the regular season to add more value to our draft pick? That's one down. Meanwhile, this GDT is panning out about how I expected a Wings Sabres matchup would. Please at least unload some of these contracts and give us fans a few positive things to look forward to in the offseason and this... whatever kind of rebuild, non-rebuild this is.

that Kane goal shoudn't have counted, dammit if that were Homer doing what Pominville did there, they would've immediately waived it off of course it's also very likely we're not going to score again tonight, anyway, so......

That's not true. Daley gets 1/2 D minutes, and a ton of SH ice time too. 2nd to Green. Mike Green was a 3rd pairing defenseman for Washington before he came here. Just because we use him in the 1D role doesn't mean he is one. Put DK, Daley in that role and let Green walk away and one of Hickets or Cholo come in to take roles a little below that and it wouldn't really make a difference. Maybe our PP hurts a bit but oh well. Point is I saw complaints for Daley last season. Yet Daley is CHEAPER than Mike Green and plays about the same ice time as he does. 2nd most on the team actually. Daley is a bigger bang for his buck. In fact Daley is a former PP specialist when he played for Pittsburgh. If Green walks, Daley takes the point on the PP. And subsequently his point totals would increase as well. Green and Daley are about the same player, one is better defensively (Daley), one is better offensively (Green). Daley is the cheaper one. Except Daley is more versatile since he's technically both a PK and PP specialist.

So is Mother Teresa

Will you giys stop being “legitimate asses” to shocky? He prefers you act like illegitimate ones.

No not really