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The whole "speed wins" narrative from the last 5 - 7 years has become so overblown. It's so overly simplified, and I suspect just another way to say young fresh-legged kids = good, slower beat up vets = bad. Anyway, speed - or mobility - is certainly ONE aspect of hockey, but it is FAR from the only, and should not be put on such a high pedestal above other skills sets. This team can play with speed if it wants to, even with Ericsson playing 17 min a night. Just like Edmonton can play with speed, with Kris Russell playing 20 min, just like Toronto can with Ron Hainsey playing 20 min, just like Tampa can with Girardi playing 16 min, etc etc. Teams with balanced lines win hockey games, teams with talented superstars win hockey games, teams with excellent systems win hockey games, teams that grind every minute win hockey games, sometimes goalies alone steal hockey games, etc etc. Fact is you need some sort of identity that combines all or some of these winning aspects and others. Speed is not the end all be all, it never was, and it never will be. Our team does not have balanced lines, our team does not have any superstars, our team does not have good systems, our team does not grind every minute, our team has average goaltending, our team is not overly physical, etc etc. What does our team have? Speed, and plenty of it. And we're still bad. All you folks who were jacked up to have Blashill behind the bench because "coaches have a shelf life" and "Bab's voice was stale in the room" need to now reap what you sowed. This is it boys n girls, this is what a speedy youth team looks like with a coach who was brought in "cause he's good with kids". Doesn't look very nice does it? Well strap in for the rough ride sally's, cause these kids still have a ton of growing to do while we burn off the remaining vet contracts. If any of you actually believed that Blashill was "good with kids" back in 2015, then you'll agree with me that he should remain our coach for the next 3 - 4 years. Not like bringing in anyone else is suddenly gonna make us a contender at this point. Might as well toil while ol'Jeffrey builds our youth up, right? He's good with kids after all, right? That's precisely what a rebuilding team needs from a coach. It's like you all demanded a rebuild for years, and now that it's here, you're mad that we're not winning hockey games and want the coach fired. Looney. Coaches on rebuilding teams DON'T win hockey games. Enjoy the season you fricken fricks. Lose for booze or whatever you say.

Greener likely back on Friday Also, reread thread for giggles lol

His teammate, Lavoie, is 2019 draft eligible and would be a great early 2nd rounder or with one of our later 1st round (hopefully) picks acquired. 18 points in 13 games, not too shabby! Plus Zadina is also a former teammate of these two. Zadina - AA - Lavoie! Nice! Getting ahead of myself, sorry!

Que pasa, Eh? since he's a Canadian Cholo

Is it just me, or are they dragging there asses a bit?

The way Dmen have been deployed so far, TOI/G: 1. Cholowski - 22:15 min 2. Jensen - 21:15 min 3. Kronwall - 20 min 4. Dekeyser - 19:15 min 5. Daley - 18:45 min 6. Ericsson - 17:40 min 7. Hicketts - 17 min By that standard it's probably Daley or Ericsson sitting, but who knows, he might just be easing them in. And Blash was giving Sulak heavy min before he got sent down, but that coulda been a pressure test too. Anyway I don't know that it will be Jensen, he's logging heavy min and doing alright. RHer favoritism.

A couple years ago I would have 100% agreed with this. The writing has been on the wall for many more years then this though. With Dats, Lids and Z though they kept trucking. Then Lids left in 2012. This was an obvious blast to their team, but they kept trucking. They didn't do well after this and you could see things getting worse, then when Dats left a few years later it was lights out. Those two players were arguably two of the best players to play their positions-in their own ways of course, even Z and his beard couldn't withstand the wrath.... …...Its taking some getting used to but I actually enjoy watching them lose this year (the end of last year too). Its years of ignorance that got them here, and its obviously bound to happen at some point, but wow we're bad haha. I look forward to when the rebuild actually starts to show some progress but until then Ill sit and wait for Yzerman

Socrates.

Problem is that everyone is pretty bad right now. You can't demote everyone. For the kids, it becomes a teachable moment as they're still developing. As for the vets, demotion becomes more about "discipline" or motivation. I think that a young player being demoted or even scratched does more to help them than it does an older player.

That's a dubious argument because it assumes that Abby or Kronwall are as bad at doing their jobs as Mantha is at his right now. It's problematic because their jobs are different. If Mantha is, as you've said many times, a finisher then he's failing abysmally at it. Neither Abby or Kronwall are counted on for offense. Abby is a penalty killer, forechecker, and physical presence. Kronwall is a past his prime veteran two way guy who is no longer capable, or expected, to skate well or contribute offensively. It would be a hard sell to say that Abby is as bad at forechecking and penalty killing as Mantha has been at scoring. Same for Kronwall. Sure there are worse players on the team, but they're doing their jobs better than Mantha is at the moment.

My feels too

Right now I feel the Wings are still outta the playoff picture - however they should be much more competitive than what they are.

I'm flattered!

I prefer to do the Cockopter

I try my best to tone down my celebratory dance moves...What I find to be effective is the pelvic thrusts from the comfort of my overpriced seat...Only thing is my kids look at me funny when I'm watching the game at home...Even worse is when the dog starts to hump me...

we speaking Millennial

Everytime I say "Cholo" I expect someone to say "Ehhhhhh que pasa?"

Love love Cholo! Everytime I say "Cholo" I expect someone to say "Marco"?

This ownership is no longer the best in the NHL. It seems Chris is too afraid to make any moves that are needed in order to turn this franchise around. Rewind if you would, Jacques Demers just won TWO Jack Adams trophies in a row, 1987 and 1988. He coached the Wings to 1st place in the Norris again in 1989, then losing to Chicago in the 1st round. Missed the playoffs in 1990. FIRED! Back then, this ownership didn't take any s*** and didn't stand for mediocracy while "rebuilding." Bryan Murray came in and built the foundation (all while making the playoffs every year) and helped create the team that dominated the NHL. Is there a Bryan Murray or Scotty Bowman out there to take Blashill's place? Don't know. But if Demers can get fired for s***ting the playoffs and missing ONE playoff season after win Coach of the Year two years in a row, then Blashill has to go, immediately. We need ownership who cares about winning, cares about the fans, hold's both coaches and players accountable. It makes no sense that Blashill still has a job after the last 3 season's results. Maybe it's just not Blashill that has becomes stale, maybe the Ilitch's have become stale as well...again, bottom line is something drastic has to happen before I continue to sink my hard earned money into this franchise. It's way past time, it's way past acceptability.

Octodad got a new job?! Octogoalie. I'd play that game.

Oh my that's amazing, I can't stop laughing.

Can confirm. I live on a farm in Seattle Washington and f*** my cousin on the reg. Sorry, can I claim "muh freezepeach?" or is constitutional freezepeach too silly these days?

The "Thought Police" are coming. They've already taken over college campuses. I am not a Mr. T follower. Didn't vote for him. I just enjoy watching the show.