kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, amato said: Probably irrelevant question: McKenzie says if they make the “CF” the 2018 pick could become a 2nd.... does he mean conference final or cup final? Would think he’d just say “finals” if it were cup final but ya never know. It’s conference finals confirmed. Look at my link from article two posts above. If it was cup finals I’d be expecting a first lol Edited February 20, 2018 by kickazz 2 amato and e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 Hell that should've been in there! If they win the Cup it becomes a 1st in 2018 (they have 2 of them) and a 2nd in 2019. Not saying Holland got fleeced, he did very good, but what is one more condition between friends? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 I bet you they bring up McCollum to back up Jimmy. Coreau is too important to the Griffins right now. They have a Cup to defend! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, kickazz said: It’s conference finals confirmed. Look at my link from article two posts above. If it was cup finals I’d be expecting a first lol Thanks, and same haha. 19 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: I bet you they bring up McCollum to back up Jimmy. Coreau is too important to the Griffins right now. They have a Cup to defend! Considering whoever they bring up will barely play (if at all), I would think they’d leave Coreau in Grand Rapids too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 Fine with this. Decent enough haul for a guy that was never gonna be here much longer after they didn't protect him in expansion. Good luck to him and let's keep the rebuild going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keep Your Stick On the Ice 67 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 Bring on the Goalie Thread Bloodbath! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Keep Your Stick On the Ice said: Bring on the Goalie Thread Bloodbath! Considering our backup will be Coreau, there really isn't anything left to argue about in terms of Red Wings goalies. Coreau sucks. Howard does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 I like this move too. We obviously weren't going forward with Petr as our guy so why let him walk for nothing? Keep it rolling Holland 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, F.Michael said: And truth be told it's a very reasonable way of looking at it. Philly is just a few pts away from either keeping their playoff spot, or potentially sliding down to 9th/10th in the Eastern Conference. They are desperate to stay in the top 8 - Mrazek will be given the chance to earn the adoration of Philly fans. Anyone know if Petr will be in net tonight against the Habs? My fantasy team hopes so 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 1 Keep Your Stick On the Ice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BinMucker94 302 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, F.Michael said: And truth be told it's a very reasonable way of looking at it. Philly is just a few pts away from either keeping their playoff spot, or potentially sliding down to 9th/10th in the Eastern Conference. They are desperate to stay in the top 8 - Mrazek will be given the chance to earn the adoration of Philly fans. Anyone know if Petr will be in net tonight against the Habs? According to daily faceoff Lyon is starting tonight. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/starting-goalies/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Found this over on the Flyers side at HF Boards... 'Have a good feeling Ron beat the **** of out Holland with conditions. At least I hope so, Holland is a ****ing simpleton.' A lot of Flyers fans are excited about this trade. As they should be. They gave up very little to acquire a goaltender with a lot of untapped potential. If Mrazek pans out, great for them. If he doesn't, no big loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: I bet you they bring up McCollum to back up Jimmy. Coreau is too important to the Griffins right now. They have a Cup to defend! I think the big team always comes first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 8 hours ago, RusDRW said: Well, 4th round selection is nothing. 4th round selection = nothing 5th round selection = less than nothing Mrazek = 5th round selection 4th round selection > Mrazek 2 ChristopherReevesLegs and kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 8 hours ago, RusDRW said: Confused it with expansion draft which is basically the same thing as waivers. You definitely got my point but decided to pretend you had no ideas what I'm talking about Nope, there were many aspects of your post that I didnt get. "Another glory day for the brand new Red Wings! First treating Mrazek like s*** by exposing him to the waiversand then trading him for nothing while also retaining salary... And all these having no goalies in the pipeline. Well done!!! For the Flyers it has all the potential to be "reserve" Bob trade." Wasnt sure why you mentioned waivers, didnt get why you cared about retaining salary for the next 3 months, not sure what a "reserve bob trade" means Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, LeftWinger said: I bet you they bring up McCollum to back up Jimmy. Coreau is too important to the Griffins right now. They have a Cup to defend! As long as he doesnt play at least 20 minutes in 15 NHL regular season games, I dont want to lose a 7th pick. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 thanks for all the good times Petr! 4 krsmith17, roboturner, 13dangledangle and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 I'm ok with it. Clears a lot of cap. Don't have to worry about re signing. Hope he wins the ******* cup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Ok, so Coreau it is. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,344 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 Guys, keep it civil, and on-topic. With that said, glad we got a good, and potentially better return for Mrazek. I'm ready to see us developing toward a different and brighter future. I'm hoping a lot of big pieces are moved and we can free up 10 mil + in cap by the end of the deadline. Good luck Petr, doesn't hurt me much to see you go, but I wish you the best in your future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, MabusIncarnate said: Guys, keep it civil, and on-topic. With that said, glad we got a good, and potentially better return for Mrazek. I'm ready to see us developing toward a different and brighter future. I'm hoping a lot of big pieces are moved and we can free up 10 mil + in cap by the end of the deadline. Good luck Petr, doesn't hurt me much to see you go, but I wish you the best in your future. At least ten mill seems like a given now, at least after the season when the half of mrazek’s cap hit/half of greens that we’re likely to retain are off the books. Could potentially be a bit more if they’re serious about moving Nyquist or Tatar. 2 krsmith17 and MabusIncarnate reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 9 hours ago, RusDRW said: Well, 4th round selection is nothing. Of course, Holland had no intentions qualifying him. That is called bad asset management. No, nothing is nothing. A 4th round pick is still a pick. 5 hours ago, greenrebellion said: Holland will re-sign mrazek in off-season after a strong playoff with Philly. 6 years 36 million Mrazek will then lose 19 of his first 20 starts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,963 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 If we just talk about the names being mentioned that are on the books for next year, Helm, Nyquist, Tatar, Glen, that is well over $10M off next years books. Add that to the $12 already available and if the cap goes up a bit, we could have between $25M and $30M. Holland has to do this. Before July 1, he has to open up about $15M. It can be done. He has to just get rid of the players being asked about, then maybe a player or two at the draft. Just think, next TDL Jimmy and E will be being shopped as well for more draft picks in a deep 2019 class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: If we just talk about the names being mentioned that are on the books for next year, Helm, Nyquist, Tatar, Glen, that is well over $10M off next years books. Add that to the $12 already available and if the cap goes up a bit, we could have between $25M and $30M. Holland has to do this. Before July 1, he has to open up about $15M. It can be done. He has to just get rid of the players being asked about, then maybe a player or two at the draft. Just think, next TDL Jimmy and E will be being shopped as well for more draft picks in a deep 2019 class. I sincerely hope Holland isn't the one spending that money or we're likely to fill that cap space with more middling players making $500k more than they should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2018/02/ken_holland_red_wings_werent_g.html#incart_river_index "(Mrazek) is not the goalie I'm keeping because we have to qualify him at $4 million this summer," Holland said. "All I can do is watch games and makes assessments based upon what I see." Holland said he hasn't decided if Jared Coreau, who was recalled from the Grand Rapids Griffins to back-up Howard, will remain with the Red Wings the rest of the season. He said Coreau has played well in the AHL and earned the opportunity. But he also might be better off playing regularly with the Griffins than watching games in Detroit. Holland didn't rule out acquiring a back-up goalie before the deadline. He said if Coreau isn't sent down before Monday, he'll likely remain here since teams are allowed only four recalls following the deadline, except in the case of injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites