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The GM has had the exact same philosophy since he took over the position in 1997 and it's been pretty successful. I'm not sure why you think he should change it for the coach all of a sudden. We have drafted and developed based on skill for 20+ years. Our organization (from top to bottom) is founded upon it, our scouts are some of the best in the world at seeing a guy like Gustav Nyquist and imagining what he'll be when he matures. You want them to stop doing that and change the whole organizational philosophy because you don't like it? So what? It works. Secondly, stop with the ******* hyperbole will you? Nobody "traded the future" for anything. We've got so many NHL ready prospects we can't get them all into the lineup, and we've got even better prospects coming. It would be a lot easier to talk to you if didn't constantly distort reality to justify some anodyne point you're stuck on for the day.

I personally don't see much of a problem with the moderation. In terms of the thread that was locked in GDT, the vast majority of us saw where that thread was headed just based on the OP. People commented, gave their opinions, things started going sour, and the mods still kept the thread alive, based on what small chance that it had of actually succeeding. This warning came amidst a sespool of attacks that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. After the warning, instead of trying to get the thread back on topic, the subject abruptly changes to discussing how terrible the moderation is.... In a Jimmy Howard thread (that in actuality was a Jimmy Howard bashing thread). I really don't see why people are suprised or angry that that particular thread was closed. As for the particular post of the guy eating popcorn (or whatever it was) that was an immediate response to the initial warning, I probably personally wouldn't have deleted it, but I'm also not a mod that has to deal with cleaning up our garbage every day, so I might be a little naive. But even going off of basic thread etiquette that post was further detailing and already fragile thread. That kind of stuff had better chance of staying alive in a healthier thread, not one where the mods are already pissed off.

Came to LGW to get my wallpaper on for October, and can't find anything. Is Matt or anyone else making monthly wallpapers? They are much better than anything I have the talent to make. Go Wings!

IMO the logic is, hire dirty players to catch dirty players. Just like they hire cheats in Vegas to catch cheats in Vegas. It makes sense to me... Pronger and Shanahan understand the physical game better than most and know when a player is just being physical or going too far. If they hired a guy like Crosby everyone would have foam wrapped around them, and players would get a game misconduct for inflicting an ouchy to an opposing player.

I'm not mad as long as we're winning. I just don't think it's some big mystery why we're not scoring much. And I completely agree with you that those guys have been impressive. They've played the game they're supposed to. That game just happens not to be very offensive. Ideal lines... Z-Pav-Jurco Franzen-Weiss-Nyquist Abby-Sheahan-Tatar Miller-Helm-Glendening Kronwall-Ericsson Smith-Dekeyser Quincey-Kindl That's with everyone healthy and no roster changes. Obviously, if I could start waiving guys and promoting guys then it would change a little, but not much.

I check the forums multiple times a day for the wallpaper too. Looking forward to the ones this year, Matt makes them better and better each year.

It's an easy play to get incensed about because it was the game winner and it was there was a questionable no call. But, truth be told it was flukey and it'll even out at some point. Much more troubling to me were the two seemingly routine plays that ended up in the back of our net. Howard and Smith's turnovers were both due to an inability to handle the forecheck effectively. It's a problem we had last year too. Babs needs to get that sorted out pronto, because unlike flukey no-calls, and defensemen toe picks, this problem is likely to repeat itself over and over as other teams realize the best way to beat Detroit is to forecheck the hell out of us.

I disagree with this statement and here's why. Both games we played against 2 top 10 teams in the NHL and we outplayed both of them, not to mention we haven't looked this good (small sample size) since 2009. We have a perfect blend of elite players, mixed with up and coming kids, and the 4th line is playing fantastic and causing havoc. Our D have been pinching in and making good plays, which hasn't been done since Rafalski, Lids, Kronner and Stuart days. We are fine, it's only 2 games into the season and I say that will full confidence. We aren't going 82-0.

Gonna throw my gas on this bonfire. There have been a few members promoted to Mod in the last few years that surprised me. Surprised me to the point to where I PM'd Matt and asked how much money I had to send him to be a Mod because __________ obviously paid him to be one. This was following a tussle I had with said mod following a post/topic I posted and was promptly removed (probably about my wanting to trade Babcock following a playoff exit). I believe the mod told me to keep it in the GDT and following my explanation that the season was over and this was a valid thread, they essentially told me to F off because I was just bitching. Now, when someone starts a thread with a coach/player's name in the title that will obviously be a critique of his play/leadership, Mods and members both know that there will be some mud slinging. If you don't then welcome to the internet. There very well may be some off topic posts, attacks, and trolling. Just delete it. Or better yet, cross out all the text and add a response as to why it was crossed out and give a warning. Flame-bating doesn't belong. But when the Mods close a legit thread, or remove a post that was meant as a poke at the Mods treating the thread like a Third Reich library, then something is wrong.

This is my favorite thread in the last year. Maybe you can go back home to your Kings forum, mod.

I can't add a lot to what harold has already said, but I will chime in with sometimes posts are deleted because they're responding to a post that needed to be deleted and to leave it would make no sense. I deleted a whole page from the Howard thread. I knew that thread was going to be trouble the minute it was started, but did what I could to keep it alive because it had the potential to be a good discussion. I will guarantee that I personally have never deleted a post simply because I disagreed with the opinion stated therein. If I delete a post, more often than not it's because it contains a personal attack, or more recently contains information Matt would prefer not be available on LGW for legal reasons. Personally I would rather refute an opinion than delete it. If we all thought the same way, it would make for poor discussion. Another suggestion I'd like to make is to PLEASE PM a mod if you have any questions or concerns - don't post in GD threads. It will be deleted because it's off topic (not the place for those types of conversations), not because we're power-hungry. Seriously, cleaning up off topic or personal attack posts is not in my top ten ways to spend an evening.

Like he said directly after that, plug Weiss in. Why he is not in the lineup is beyond me... If he still isn't in after the next couple games, I will be shocked...

Part of the responsibility is on the forwards as well. I watch LA and they'll make 3-4 quick passes in the defensive zone and then fire up the outlet. Look and recognize the safe play that will give you space. Forwards have to be back as an option. Puck support in all three zones To be honest I don't think we've been that bad. Smith's play was just a brain fart, an attempted quick pass for a forward but nobody was supporting. Howard had plenty of time and Kronwall just has to stay on his feet. We had time to make a play just goofed it I do agree we don't handle a tough forecheck well. You can tell the wings are playing well when they're making those quick one touch passes to break down the forecheck. They made a lot of smart plays like that against Boston, not so much against Anaheim

I largely agree, but you're right, I hate that third line. Weiss isn't going to get going if you give him two linemates who have never played on the wing for any significant amount of time, and haven't ever really been known for offensive production when at their natural positions. Putting Weiss with nonscorers means he's got to shoulder the offensive load, which is the exact opposite of easing him into it until his confidence returns. Give him wingers or trade/waive him. Carolina would pick him up tomorrow (all their centers are hurt and they suck). Anyway, heading out for the night. Good talking to you though.

You guys are right. Other sites are much more lenient. Which is why they suck. I actually think the mods do a great job of keeping things on topic and stopping things from getting out of hand. Sorry if you are butt hurt cause your Howard bashing thread was locked but seriously grow up. The mods usually join in on conversation and joke around, and sometimes they have to enforce forum rules. Go to hfboards if you want total anarchy

I would just ask that if a post of yours is deleted or a thread is locked and you want to know why, please PM one of us. You may not like the answer but it can at least provide you with an explanation. And to be clear, I'm not kidding when I say PM Matt if you have a problem with the moderating or a suggestion. He's a busy guy and may not get back to you right away so it's probably best to start with a moderator, but he obviously wants this site to be as successful and popular as it can be, and is open to suggestions. As I said above, I suggest PM'ing one of the mods. I can't really provide an explanation because I don't know what you're referring to. I only spend time on a small handful of forums, but honestly the ones I go to are exactly like this or more strict.

Are you kidding? Did you miss what just happened that prompted the opening of this thread? Or do I need to link you back to it to "cite a reference" EDIT: Also it's kinda hard to link back to something when it no longer exists because a mod already came through and scrubbed the record clean.

This Since Q is getting paid $4.25m I guess that for Boychuk $5m/$5,5m should be enough.

So solid in fact that I have barely notices him in the first two games. Which always is a good thing. I've been really impressed with lots of guys and just the overall team in general. Franzen has been the best for me thus far. Being physical, coming back defensively, making an effort every shift and actually setting up quite a few goals. Him with Z and Gus looked really good for the short time they've been put together. Once Datsyuk comes back I'd love to see the 3 of them stay together but we'll see what happens.

Still rooting against a guy the Wings have signed for YEARS for MILLIONS. Makes no sense.

To me, reviewing penalties can drastically change the outcome of a game. See; Oct 11,2014. I also remember another game, not even sure if it was the wings; (pretty sure it was) but crosby took a high stick from one of his own teammates and was awarded a 4 minute powerplay for high sticking. It could also be used to review dives and see if there was actual contact with the stick between legs for trips and stuff. The game is played faster then any other sport, theres nothing wrong with slowing it down for a second to correct a mistake.

Yes that loss stings a little but really is there a reason to complain here if you're a wings fan? I honestly thought they played brilliantly and deserved to win the game. They're showing so much energy, speed and desire, and they responded physically to the challenge of the Ducks. Multiple times we saw guys (abby, Helm, Smith, Franzen etc) throw the body around and its great to see. Hell, when Kesler tried to take Smith's head off, Glendening was right there shoving Kesler down telling him to go **** himself. The only thing hurting the Wings right now is a few costly defensive mistakes, but with time, if they keep playing this way, those will fade. We'll be getting Pavel back probably by next weekend at the earliest and that's also a great sign as it gives us more offensive firepower and depth. The kids have all played great thus far, and our D is looking much better than last year. I'm really liking the DeKeyser/Smith pairing and have thought they've both been solid. Like i said, theres been a couple costly turnovers the first two games, and as such pretty much all our opponents goals have come off of Red Wings mistakes. That can only be good because if we cut down/eliminate most of these, while continuing to play with speed and energy then we're in really good shape to be honest.

May the odds be ever in your favor.

There it is!!!

I don't know much about this Malykhin guy, other than a few articles I've read but as far as Jarnkrok goes, I think Nosek is our replacement for him. And to be honest I think he has a good chance at being a better player than Jarnkrok. He definitely has the size advantage and he absolutely has the skills. I really like what I've seen from him thus far in training camp and preseason. He's in the lineup tonight and I expect him to get on the scoresheet at least once.