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Indeed. Second only to Slapshot when it comes to Hockey comedies.

I didn't watch the ASG and didn't get into the hype over Scott, but I rather like him. He had me when they introduced Kane, and the crowd boo'ed like crazy. I thought Scott was going to bust a gut laughing!! I'm a fan. Goon is a great movie, by the way.

He's trolling. I don't understand why people continue to carry on a conversation with him.

Imagine a line of Larkin-AA-Abby.

This isn't a surprise and many of us have been talking about it for years. If you draft 20th every year in time you will have the 20th best talent. That is where we are heading. As of today we are 30-31. 30 wins, 20 loses and 11 OTL. We are sub .500. We lack F's that can plug up the crease and Dmen that can clear the crease. The worst part is Holland will not make trades. He has been on a plug and patch path for the last 5-6 years. Meanwhile we have lost HOF caliber players and not replaced them. Right now there are only 5 players in the entire organization that I wouldn't trade: Larkin, Dekeyser, Mrazek, Svechnikov (spelling) and Mantha. That is it. Everyone else could be moved in the right deal. Of course nothing will happen other than resigning more average players to long term deals instead of going after big fish.

They're already making that one haha

DAMMIT MAN! Open your eyes and witness the glory of Frkdog!

Cory Emerton was fast. Look where that landed him.

If you guys want to compare the two statistically seasons, you obviously cant take total careers because Datsyuk has played so much longer, you can take up to 27 due to what was said above, and you cant take career averages as Datsyuk's averages have gone down with decline and injuries while Toews is still in his prime. If you want to compare stats. the only thing you can do IMO is compare the averages of their top NHL seasons. Take each players best 3 years, find the average numbers and compare. I would do it, but I don't care enough as IMO this is no competition as I have made my opinions of Toews clear. *EDIT* lol, I wrote my response before reading this.

Billyboy was only comparing stats up to age 27 for each player. So Datsyuk only had a few season in the NHL and Toews had like 8. That conveniently excludes Datsyuk's other cup, selke trophies, and half of his statistical output, and compares it to Toews' entire NHL career. Thus Toews is clearly the best player. What Billyboy failed to do is include Emdog in the competition, and when we look at his stats, its clear Emdog is truly the best: Taking both players stats from December 17th 2011 we have: Emdog: 2 goals 1 assist 3 points +2 2 faceoffs won Toews: 0 goals 0 assists 0 points +0 0 faceoffs won Emdog is clearly better in every statistical category. THE STATS DONT LIE

I could have this wrong, but didnt the coach that ran the PP go to Toronto with Babcock?

Wtf had Frk ever done to make you think he is a top line nhler? What color is the sky in your world? I feel like it definitely isn't blue.

All aboard the Frk hype train... Oh it's just Bill? Never mind... Bill you say a ton of outlandish s*** but there's no way you actually believe that Frk is better than Nyquist and Tatar...

Why is Pulkinnen in over Jurco? He finally starts scoring and getting some confidence and we bench him?

wow! the Tacky GDT fan pack keeps getting better and better... haha JUST KIDDING!

I'm gonna boop its snoot and you can't stop me

Cool facts. If only they made sense towards the actual topic..

Depends on what type of hardware but yes I completely agree. Someone stating Toews has 3 cups and using that as an argument to state they are better then player "X" really has no argument and is trolling.

NO!!! Lol it's the Cold War Kids

Kane scored the big goals, not Toews. In fact I think Kane should have won the Conn Smythe the first Stanley Cup since Toews disappeared after the Nashville series. Toews also cried in the box when Detroit was shutting him down remember? It was Seabrook that had to go try to calm him down. He's much like Getzlaf and Perry when they get shut down by Datsyuk and Z, they spaz out and get upset. No matter which way you slice it Datsyuk > Toews. f*** the so called "Intangibles". If Toews was Russian his name wouldn't even be mentioned. Here's a little reminder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jiqkma-BXo

Updated: http://wingsarena.tumblr.com Almost have the steel wrapped all the way around on the lower portion. Bunch of concrete prefabs in place for the rows of seats in the upper.

What's the significance of going by their career successes only up to age 27? I'm failing to see how that is a necessity to determine who is the better player. What it does do is skew the numbers horribly in Toews' favor. You're essentially comparing what Datsyuk was able to do in 3 years to what Toews was able to do in 8 years, and then arguing that because Toews did more in those 8 years hes the better player. Also, regardless of how you want to cut the seasons to try to argue your case, Stanely Cup count is a horrible indicator to determine who is better because its a function of team skill, not individual skill, and also has a lot to do with luck, health, and relative quality of opposition during the cup run. Case in point: you know who has more Stanley Cups than Toews? Jeff Beukeboom. Going by your criteria that would make him a better player. We both know that's absurd. Conn Smyth: Also a problem. Based on relative quality of teammates (and opponents during the SCF) during stanley cup run which makes it a flawed stat to use for a couple reasons. One is that the Blackhawks have won the cup more times than the Wings have during their respective careers (and particularly during your little age restriction), so Toews has had a way better opportunity presented to him to win it than Datsyuk. In addition to that, the winner of this award is measured as a comparison of players in that particular final, and not throughout the rest of the league. Toews winning the Conn Smyth means he was better than his teammates in that particular cup run and thats about it. It doesn't assess how he compares to people on other teams (maybe with the exception of whoever lost in the finals that year), nor does it assess how he compares to players in different years. Mike Vernon has more Conn Smyth trophies than Dominic Hasek and Brodeur (and that's without putting a cute age restriction on the criteria). It clearly doesn't mean he was the best goalie of the three.

What were the ages of Datsyuk and Toews when they each entered the league? ^ With that one sentence your entire argument and paragraph just got wasted. Come on Bill need better evidence. You haven't convinced me (even Chicago fans laughing at Kickazz are wondering why you haven't come up with a better argument for them). You're not trying hard enough!

K So according to you Toews is as good or a better player than Datsyuk was. Good to know. Laughable, but definitely good to know.

Saw this on HFBoards, LOL: Great chance for Larkin.