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Marchenko has looked solid the same way that most of our defensive prospects look solid when they're brought up: they do they're best to stay out of trouble, don't bring much attention to themselves, and occasionally do something offensively. And of course Marchenko looks a bit better than Oulette because he's right-handed, which gives us a new dimension. But for as much flak LGW gives Smith, he's solidly on a level above all of Oulette, Marchenko, Lashoff, Kindl, and any other defensive prospect we currently have. And Marchenko's right-handedness isn't enough of an advantage for me to trust him over Smith in the playoffs. We're essentially upgrading our right-handed defender from someone with no experience, to someone with quite a lot of experience. But oh my gosh our defensive depth: Kindl, Lashoff, Oulette, Marchenko, maybe even Sproul all NHL-ready. That's almost a whole defensive team of players we aren't dressing.

From the guy who started the "TANK IT" thread. Your sarcasm is high praise when paired with your track record of prognostication.

Unlike Jurco, if Pulkkinen isn't scoring he isn't doing much. I like it. He's not ready to consistently contribute in the NHL. Particularly for a team that's looking to finish strong and position itself for a playoff run.

People are just looking for ANY reason to be negative. Kenny makes two great trades for the first time in forever, and people still slaughter him. I'm as skeptical of the "kicking tires" and "we like our team" crap, but the man deserves his due. We got better in the last 2 days and have just as good a chance of any team in the East to go on a run.

The Wheel Deal ‏@Bill_Roose 7m7 minutes ago #RedWings Zetterberg practiced with the team today. Hopes to be cleared for contact tomorrow and possibly play Wednesday vs. @NYRangers.

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 3m3 minutes ago Lamoriello said there were other offers for Zidlcky and "better" offers, but because of no trade, Zidlicky had control where he went. But.... but.... nobody wants to come here!

This is correct and a great point. A lot of these people who want superstar player X because he scores this many goals and this many assists, that's not all that goes into a GM's decision. They don't make trades just by looking at stats on nhl.comIf Detroit got Mike Green in the offseaon, great! Babcock would have a full season to teach him the required defensive responsibilities of the game, the system and the team. One thing to think about, besides his offense, Green's hockey IQ might bot be that high. He might not learn the defensive side of detroit's system before the playoffs. Shooting and scoring come naturally to Green, where defense doesn't. Zidlicky might put up some numbers, but he will for sure be in the right place at the right time defensively, and when you only have 20 games to settle in, the defensive responsibility is a lot more important to have. I hope that made some sense.

What is there to get? We picked up 2 legit veteran players and gave up prospects who are clearly not even close to playing in the NHL. We gave up a couple of picks which we can afford to do considering our prospect pool is pretty damn deep. It's all about what you can afford to give up and what you need. We needed another right handed d man and got one.

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive 1m1 minute ago Holland said Helm and Marchenko both have bit of oblique strain. Nothing serious. Out a week or so. Thank god... Could have been much worse

I have to say I am very excited about this trade Cole could bring a lot to the table if his health a good power forward that brings grit and veteran leadership and who hits a lot exactly what I was hoping for I said I wanted a good forward who could produce ore offense since we had some problems off and on with that at times im very happy go for the cup boys!

Nyquist sucks in the top six. He's a sweetheart, but a waif. Let him eat up third line opposition while the adults do the hard work against the big boys.

Where did Quincey go?Edit: lol. Scratched or waived huh? Priceless.

Only dinosaurs and rush Limbaugh are scared away by the thought of change.

Why all the hate for Smith?! He has had a very good season and simply doesn't get PP time that he SHOULD get. The D pairings will be: Kronners- E D-Q Smith- Zidlicky

Wings are 16-3-3 against the West, Rangers are 13-3-5 and Pens are 12-4-2.

Like that matters. We are a young team right now. 07-08 We had 2 40+ year olds and 7 other 35+ year olds and won the cup. Right now our team has 5 35+ year olds. With the Cole, Zidlicky addition. What are you going to be negative about next so I can refute that too?

I've found that being super condescending is a great way to get people to consider my point! wait

Yeah, well from your posts you sound like a 15 year old that knows less than nothing about hockey

Now I may be way off base, but I love how Marchenko more than any other Dman (except Smith?) jumps up on the rush. He's also not afraid to let it fly from the point. I like that. Too many others seem intent on cycling more than Lance Armstrong on his way to his blood doper.

He's expected back this week and the doctors said he could wait until the off season for surgery. Expect Quincey back in the lineup where he belongs.

Yeah Marchenko is going to head down and possibly be recalled for after the restricted roster period ends..... Zidlicky will play on the bottom pair, and on the 2nd power play unit.

I'm thinking something like: Nyquist-Z-Abby Tatar-Datsyuk-Cole Weiss-Sheahan-Pulkkinen Miller-Glendening-Andersson

So do some of you guys even want to win or what? Kenny gave up 2 prospects who likely were never going to see time in the winged wheel. Cole is 36, have you seen him play? He's not Bertuzzi. He can still skate as well as he ever did, and plays a physical power game.

Ever try Maple Leafs Tea? It costs a fortune, but doesn't come with a Cup.

You mean the tank is turning into a short bus?