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This i can dig. I just have a hard time acknowledging eliteness in a player who is 66th in league scoring, ranking alongside the likes of Adam Henrique, and Frans Nielson. 48th in goals, 127th in assists, 85th in points/game. He is tied for first leaguewide in +/-, which is certainly worth mentioning, but I don't think that's enough to label him elite just yet. If we are comparing him to other rookies? Definitely elite. If we are grading based on potential? Definitely elite. But if we are comparing him to the league as a whole and not putting limitations on his competition, then he hasn't proven himself to be elite in any statistical category other than +/-. That's not to say he won't next year, or the year after that, or averaged over his entire career. He just hasn't done so to date.

Kindl has no value

I can understand him honestly. Marner did almost the same against Finns. In third periods of the last three games against Canada, Sweden and Russia Finns were magically given a plenty of PP opportunities.In these games PP time was 88-22 in favor of Finland. I've never seen such a lopsided officiating ay WJHCs in Europe.

Convo moved from Drouin thread to here. I say this 19 year old phenom is definitely elite. How many forwards in the league would you rather have?

Yeah I was kind of under the impression that at this point a lot of these guys are asked whether they'd be interested in participating prior to the official announcement.

He wasn't snubbed. I was giving you media language and sarcasm. He simply hasn't played like an all-star. And didn't get a spot. I think that's the first main reason. Additionally , it's not like he's been that great in the all-star games anyway. 2nd reason I think is the league has guys like Toews and Kane to promote themselves now, they don't need to hang on to Crosby. He'd probably much rather sit out anyway. Crosby will be Crosby but when there's other guys up and coming as the canadian/american faces of hockey, Crosby can get a break.

Bill, didn't you suggest that his stats are as good as anyone in the league, or something like that? How is 27pts comparable to 59pts? There is nothing elite about 27pts in 39 games. Arguing whether he's the best of the team right now is one thing and possible, but that doesn't make him elite. I agree with others though, it's all in perception of the term. In my mind, there are very few elite players in the league, if there are a lot, then how could you really call them elite? Some teams have 1, some have more than 1 and some have none.

The Lark Ness Monster! This makes me way more excited for the all-star game, meaningless game or not.. Good for Dylark, he's earned it. Keep up the good work, kid!

Dylan Larkin named to NHLs All-Star Game roster dlvr.it/DC3drw Edit: WTF? Twitter links don't paste anymore? Try this: http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/dylan-larkin-named-to-nhls-all-star-game-roster?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

How about this for a happy medium: Dylan Larkin is an elite member of his draft class. See, now we recognize his (potential for) greatness, but also keep in perspective that he needs to do it consistently over multiple years before he is elite in the NHL!!!

You wouldn't trade him for McDavid, Tavares or Benn?

...but don't forget that if Kindl is waived, we'll be GIVING AWAY a former first rounder FOR NOTHING. (good for nothing holland. grumblegrumble.) Sarcasm aside. Trading a guy like Kindl isn't 2k15 or whatever. Sure, somebody might want or even be willing to be nice and take Kindl off our hands, but they aren't willing to pay anything for him. "Just trade him for a late rounder" people say. Sure... but to whom? Any GM in the league can see we're in a pickle when it comes to number of guys on D. Why would anyone do us a favor and give us a pick for a guy we don't want on the ice? We can also toss him in as a side piece in a trade package, but that's just like a free car wash you get for filling up your car, but it's raining outside. You don't give a single s*** about that car-wash... and if you just washed your car the other day (have similar d-men or your own developing d-men or a roster crunch on d-men) you certainly don't want another bloody car wash. So, either you're okay with Kindl being a healthy scratch and sending Marchenko down, waiving Kindl and probably losing the guy for nothing, or have some patience until I team actually needs a guy like Kindl, or we can add him on to a package deal. I don't wanna hear any of you complaining about how you want Kindl gone and the manner in which he leaves. #sterndad #lectureover I'm still on the fence with Ericsson. In general, he was looking better this year, but that was before the injury and now he's seemingly regressed. He's a frustrating player. Use your size. Play a safe game. Focus on your end of the ice. Defend. Mash dudes into the board. Clear the front of the net. Stop doing fancy s*** and just keep it simple. Let the other defensemen around you lead the charge, they are so much better at it than you.

They should both be in. Nosek has already been reassigned to Grand Rapids, and Andersson should be the healthy scratch.

I would guess the Red Wings have the biggest fan base in the NHL, due to our playoff streak, 4 Championships since 1997, and the number of Europeans on the team. Our players are very likable too, they don't play dirty or whine. Edit: I'll add, the low ratings for the Winter Classic was probably due to overkill.

I would like to thank the Wings for making my Bday even better. GO WINGS and all of you kick ass peeps on LGW!!!!!

Interesting thought, but under the Iltich ownership no way do they completely s*** on a player or coach the way the Cowboys did with Tom Landry and replaced him with a coach whose college program had cheating scandals. I agree, if the Wings get back to a final, the band wagoners will be all aboard.

This 1000000000 times....Abby - Glenny - Helm would be a great 4th line. Speed, grit, checking....I don't know why Blash doesn't try it.

One bad game and we're totally down on Howard? I think Mrazek is the future and Howard should be gone after this year, but Howard's been more than solid for the most part this year. I don't think any changes to the rotation are really necessary at this point.

How about "The Dandenault Dome"?

The Brett. I miss #22.