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Our secret weapon is back! Clap bombs n f*** moms lets f***en go boys HYPE

S*** kinda sucks right now in Red Wings Land, so I'm bringing some extra HYPE! to the table. Can you actually blame me? HYPE! LGRW!

20 game win streak incoming, playoffs ACTIVATE. Surprise, Larkin and Cholowski are elite, Mantha and AA turn great, Kronwall, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Nielsen all spontaneously vanish (presumably to a hockey player dumpster). f*** Jack Hughes. Go Wings! Nobody dig this post up in the future.

Tied for 3rd on the team in hits. Tied for 2nd on the team in takeaways. Dudes truly invisible when he's not scoring. If he shrank by a foot It'd be cool thou.

Frk is going to score a power-play goal. Cholowski is going to put up 2 points. And lazy Mantha is going to put up 3 points. 5-2 Wings.

Bookmarking it now

I assume you mean our mother Frkin secret weapon. (I kid, Frk's average af)

LGRW! 4-1 wings. Tats with the hat trick! Oh wait, 4-1 Canadiens.

LGRW!!

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LGRW!!!!

I wasn't going to get into stats, but if you are going to excuse me of not understanding something, I will do a deep dive to show you that is not true. Lets use your Coffey/Kelly example: In 1961, Kelly's best offensive year where he got 70 points, the average goals scored per game was 3. In 1986, Coffey's best offensive year where he got 138 points, the average goals scored per game was 3.97. Now lets compare years. 1986 showed an increase in goals over 1961 by about 32%. So even if we add 32% to Kelly's best offensive season, that puts him at 92 points. So even using inflation and (*edit* playing center in 1961) Coffey still out produced Kelly by 46 points. Maybe you will counter that I am using a season late in Kelly's career. Well if you take the best season in the first half of his career, here is what the stats show: in 1951, Kelly's best offensive year in the first half of his career he got 54 points, the average goals scored per game was 2.71. If we compare this to Coffey's best year, 1986 showed an increase in goals by about 47%. So even if we add 47% to Kelly's 54 point season, that puts him at 79 points. So again, even using inflation, Coffey still out produced Kelly, but this time by 61 points. I don't think most hockey historians put Kelly above Paul Coffey, most historians rank him in respect to his era, because there is no way to compare a player who played that long ago to the players of the modern era. To give you an exact example, if you have ever read "Best of the Best, Ranking the greatest players of all time" by Scott Morrison, Kelly is ranked #3 in the original era, while Coffey is ranked #6 in the modern era. Point being, they are not ranked together. You talk about how D-men were not as offensive back then, which given that he scored 71 points seems a bit hard to believe. But even excepting that logic, if you are saying it was an entirely different game, how can you say that he is better then then top guys of the modern era? What is your criteria outside of nostalgia and bias? I highly doubt you watched Kelly play. (my apologies if I'm wrong) This is why I disagree with you saying he is "top 10 all time" because if you use stats (even with inflation) he doesn't hold up. I admit that is not fair, my point being its better to compare players in respect to their era's. Now if you want to talk about point production in comparison to other players in their era, I guess we can do that, but I dont think Kelly will end up top 10 from what I have seen, and that's not even factoring in the fact that he was not playing against the best of the best. I will say this, Kelly was a top 5 D-man of the original 6 era. *EDITED* Accidentally used stats from 1971, meant to use 1961. Now accurate.

HYPE to the MAX! LGRW!!!

i wish he would use his size when hes not scoring goals

It was a rhetorical question, but thx fam. xoxoxoxo

2 goals, 4 points though

Bernier had a .795 save percentage. That's complete trash. Had he only given up 3 goals (which would be acceptable on 39 SOG) this team might have had a chance. That said, 39 shots on goal is way too many too. SO, basically everyone is lazy and sucks.

I'm happy for you man!

Here are my thoughts on this game: Jack Hughes. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Disagree. Nyquist needs to have a solid year so the Wings can get an asset for him at the deadline. Zadina can come up then, if he's ready... or earlier if the forwards get hit by injuries like the D has, but not instead of a healthy Nyquist.

We committed to a rebuild late in the 2016-17 season. So it hasn't even been two full seasons yet. We've had two drafts in the rebuild era and we got a lot of players out of them. We're gonna need at least a couple more drafts like the one we just had, and we're gonna have to hope we can get at least one player who's even better than Zadina, because Larkin+Zadina+Cholowski is not going to be a good enough core if multiple championships is the goal. The team is getting younger. The youth doesn't appear to be quite up to the challenge of leading an NHL team to a respectable record at this time, but, again, we're in transition. Where you see hopelessness and no progress whatsoever, I see some reasons to be optimistic. It's easy to bash Holland and Blashill and Nyquist and anyone who's pissing us off on any given day, but, personally, my hope and expectation is that all of this will be a distant memory after a couple more years.

Again, it doesn't matter what the state of the team is. Putting someone in above their heads is only detrimental to their development as a player.

I dream of a day Mantha becomes as lazy and sucky as Franzen. Miss you Mule.