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Wow, some of the comments here and elsewhere are really low. While I'm not expecting anybody to be losing sleep over an injury to another team's star player, celebrating the pain anybody goes through with that kind of injury is rotten. Sports really brings out the worst in people, especially those shielded by the anonymity of the Internet. From what I'm reading, Crosby did not need to get his jaw wired shut. That's significant because it means he should be able to get back to solid foods earlier than someone who required that procedure. Athletes in particular who go through that tend to lose weight and strength, which sets back their recovery even further. Hopefully Crosby recovers in time for the playoffs. I, for one, prefer to watch hockey with its best players active.

carlo colaiacovo to play against the avs tonight.... april fools, he got injured getting out of bed

The sammy re-signing reminds me of the Jason Williams re-signing...

And hossa was playing with a bum shoulder that required surgery. But that's not important because it doesn't fit your argument.

I think the travel has more to do with it than anything. Mickey Redmond commented on this a few weeks ago. I think Brunner told him the farthest he had to travel to a road game was less than an hour. They don't have to deal with the drastic time zone changes either in the Swiss League. I know everyone thinks it's easy and oh, they get paid a lot, so they should just suck it up, but try flying all night, losing 3 hours, sleeping in a strange place, then having to play in a hockey game. I think it's far more difficult than it appears.

Sammy and Coliacovo would get hurt playing in juggernaught armor

I'm not worried. It's not a lack of effort, he just needs to learn the game. His talent is there, he is a great skater, and the shot is top notch. He's also better than I thought he would be passing the puck. He just over thinks the game too much, and he makes some really bad decisions defensively. He is really raw when it comes to that part of the game, but he has never stopped skating or anything like that. So I definitely think his game will develop with time. Once he starts to understand the game he'll create more offensive opportunities for himself by creating turnovers. His hot start had a lot to do with everyone around him playing well, once Zetterberg fell off he's game went right with him. And Brunner's not at the level yet where he can create his own scoring chances. The good news is he won't get a big deal, that kinda scared me in the beginning of the year when he was close to the goal scoring lead. Now hopefully we sign him to a couple year deal, and have a steal of a player once his game develops.

Would have been way better with Dekeyser, Brunner and a drafted player.

Agreed on Gaborik but not necessarily with Cammalleri. I'd definitely take Cammy, he's a good scorer, but his stat line is almost exactly the same as Pominville's, they're the same size, both their contracts are through next season, Cammy makes 700k more, and he's noticeably worse on defense. I guess it would come down to the asking price, if Cammy could be had for less then I'd go that route, if Pominville is cheaper then that's what I'd do.

Pominville is exactly not what this team needs.

Make a "hell of an offer" for Nash. Haha wouldn't that be something. honestly though, I'm hoping Kenny makes a push for gabby or vanek. Bobby Ryan would be awesome but I don't see it happening.

The Month of April There are 13 regular-season games in the month of April in the 2012-13 season, 6 Home and 7 Away, with 3 off-days The games are broken down as: 4 v. Division / Conference 9 v. Non-Division / Conference Club Records, Most / Least in April Most - Overall Games: 16 Wins: 10 Losses: 4 Points: 22 Most - Home Games: 6 Wins: 4 (two times) Losses: 6 Points: 8 (three times) Most – Away Games: 10 Wins: 7 Losses: 3 (four times) Points: 14 Fewest – Overall Games: 1 (eight times) Wins: 0 (fifteen times) Losses: 0 (seven times) Points: 0 (eight times) Fewest – Home Games: 1 (thirteen times) Wins: 0 (thirteen times) Losses: 0 (eighteen times) Points: 1 (two times) Fewest – Away Games: 1 (seventeen times) Wins: 0 (twenty-three times) Losses: 0 (eight times) Points: 0 (seventeen times) Current Streaks Regular-Season Streaks Overall: 2-game losing streak (1 shutout) Home: 3-game losing streak (1 shootout) Historical Regular-Season Streaks v. Colorado Overall: 2-game losing streak Home: 1-game losing streak Last Ten Games – Current Regular-Season Overall: 5W-4L-0OTL-1SOL Home: 4W-4L-0OTL-2SOL Last Ten Games – Current Regular-Season v. Colorado Overall: 3W-6L-0OTL-1SOL Home: 5W-2L-0OTL-3SOL Home / Away Games This is the final of two consecutive Home games All-time Record v. Quebec / Colorado All-time, Overall v. Quebec / Colorado 111G: 60W-41L-5T-0RT-1OTL-4SOL All-time, Home v. Quebec / Colorado 55G: 33W-17L-1T-0RT-1OTL-3SOL Season Record v. Colorado This is the second of 3 games v. Colorado this season, with the Club's record in the previous game: 1W This is the last of 2 Home games v. Colorado this season, with the Club's record in the previous Home game: 1W Record on this Day April 1 This is the 22nd regular-season played on this day, with the Club's record in the previous 21 games: 12W-4L-4T-1OTL Included in this is at least one point in the last 13 games This is the 3rd regular-season game played v. Quebec / Colorado on this day, with the Club's record in the previous 2 games: 1W-1L LGW.

The Wings have no realistic chance at the cup this season. The lack of scoring depth, the defense looking lost in some games, and Howard not being an elite goalie all add up to the Wings being bounced early if they even make the playoffs.

Not trading Flip and losing him this summer for nothing would be stupid. He's not $5M worth

Gaborik doesn't mean that we're Pittsburgh, Chicago, or Anaheim all of the sudden, but it doesn't "make us a bubble team". With or without Gaborik we're not a bubble team. We've been solidly in a playoffs spot for about two months, and have been VERY competitive against the best teams in the Western Conference in spite of having a top six made up of four legitimate forwards and two plugs. Gaborik gives us depth, a game changing presence that doesn't require Datsyuk or Zetterberg to create chances for him, an elite shooter for Datsyuk, and a guy to take the hard defensive matchups away from guys like Brunner and Franzen (in turn freeing them up). Gaborik would do a ton for this team, maybe not win it a cup, but put it in a better, more competitive position to do so.

Scraps, no. But Filppula isn't a scrap. He's a good centerman who is defensively responsible and has occasional flashes of brilliance. He could be packaged up to get a reliable vet (Gaborik) for a team who needs a defensive forward or needs to get stronger down the middle, and wants to get a little younger or cheaper. Filppula, White (or Quincey) and a pick could be attractive.

not to derail yours guys nyquist debate, but as far as lashoff is concerned, i think this is a move that could be for the best. he has spent significant time in the nhl and now can spend a little time in the ahl working on the parts of his game that weren't nhl ready. this is a much more effective development strategy than just leaving guys in the ahl for years at a time. it causes development to plateau. whereas with this route, lashoff got the chance to grow a ton in the nhl as a regular and now he can take a breather, work on some things, and come back more motivated than ever.

Team masseuse?

The fact that you are trying to justify that Franzen is somehow better than Hossa makes me wonder if you just check box scores or if you watch the actual games. Franzen scored a whopping 3 more goals than Hossa in 2010, and has 4 points since 2010 in 13GP in the playoffs, Hossa has 8 points in 10GP. No matter which way you slice it, Hossa is just better than Franzen.

Yeah, soccer really captures the gist of it. Sports are supposed to be entertainment. I don't know what it is that drives some people, makes them so unconscionable. Maybe they don't have enough going on with themselves so they live vicariously through sports and teams, and it becomes bigger than them. At any rate, the unbridled hate that comes out of stories like these make me a cynical man.

Fatigue isn't the only issue here. He was an unknown commodity with no NHL experience when the season began. He scored a few goals early off, had a highlight reel shootout experience, and a few weeks later he's among the lead leaders in goals. Suddenly, teams stopped treating him like a soft Euro and started taking away his time and space. He's more tightly covered whilst sneaking into the slot from the soft-side. Defense are on him much quicker and harder in the corners, and while Brunner can mentally adjust to North American hockey, it will be a slower process to build up the physical strength to be able to fight through the coverage that he is now experiencing. Secondly, Brunner has really focused hard on playing a more defensively sound game. He is back-checking much more effectively than when the season began, and he's playing much deeper in our own zone instead of floating at the blueline waiting for a breakout. He has also been more conscious of opponent's breakout potentials and is adjusting his game in the offensive zone to accommodate this. His new-found defensive responsibilities are also going to lower his offensive output. Combined with the brutal North American schedule and travel, its no surprise at all why Brunner has suddenly gone quiet. He's with good role models though, and I suspect that he will be able to overcome the schedule and the added defensive attention he has over the next few years. Given his commitment to learning the defensive side of the game, and how far he has come already, I'd say the guy is willing to do whatever it takes to be successful at this level. Lets hope my assumption is correct.

And the problem with trading is to find someone who will. In the West some teams won't trade with us because we still may meet them in the playoffs while some teams in the east won't trade with us because we will face them next season in our new division. And even if they will the price would be significantly higher than usual. It is the worst time to trade for the Red Wings, it will get better when the season is over. Stick with the tools we have and make some moves during the offseason, in which the new CBA will also help us.

That was a dive by Crosby.

Edited the thread title to be less obnoxious. I understand not liking Crosby, but celebrating that he got hit in the face with the puck is lame.

I was trying to think of what would be excellent thread titles for April fools jokes related to Red Wings/ NHL topics. Since such threads would lead to banishment (rightfully so) I though we could post them here in a responsible manner for entertainment value. I remember 10-15 years ago a Detroit radio station started an April Fools about the Wings moving to Windsor. I believe they even got Darren McCarty to call in and play along. I remember being absolutely devastated. People were calling in a talking about destroying all of their Wings gear. Anyone remember that?

Why doesn't anyone else just skate as hard as Tootoo does every shift, is that too much to ask for??

Game is now on FSD.....but the sound is weird - think they left all the mic's at the Tiger game.

Opening the door to get in the rink.

I like helm but he is a 4th line center. Give him tootoo and they'll create havoc.

I truly hope not. That's all we need is another big Dman that doesn't hit. There's a reason he's the NHL's iron man, he's softer than melting butter. And his contract is terrible. I'd be ok with Pominville, but the one thing I'm wondering is if Flip wants 5 mil per, are we gonna let him walk and get nothing? I think Kenny's priority should be getting a 1st rounder for Flip and sending him to whoever wants him for that price, and Anaheim would be my guess cause he's buddies with Selanne and could help the Ducks out a lot.

This right here. The Wings are in transition. They are geared to make the playoffs, and thats it.

Ok then trade everyone of value. We either go all in or not. We can play well, we are just inconsistent. If you want them to be sellers and then force a rebuild that we likely not make us a contender until after datsyuk retires I understand. But I'd rather try and make this team better, I really don't think that we have no chance. I think we have a chance, not a good one, but the potential is there.

Clean out the old now, stock up on picks, pursue one or two guns for offense this summer, snag a top pairing D man.

He scores goals. The rest of the roster? Doesn't score goals. I agree we aren't a Marian Gaborik away from being elite, but a Marian Gaborik is they type of guy we need to add in order to move forward.

He's UFA at the end of the year and wants 5 mil. We could use the pick to draft the 6'5 centre slated to go 19th in this years draft to replace one our eleventynine playmakers.

Pens acquire Lidstrom

If Stamkos was a rookie for the wings, everyone would have been calling for Hollands head, 46 points for a 1st overall pick, that is just unacceptable...

Thought police out in full force I see... your not being very tolerant of other peoples views my friend. That being said, I am also not happy he took a puck to the face, especially when I seen the video of his chiclets flying out of his mouth. I AM happy to see the Penguins top threat go down, I don't want to see them win the cup again.

Change the thread title to "Amnesty".

So what are the two of you going to do if karma turns out to be the ***** she's purported to be?

I have been saying for a long time that Brunner should be playing with Pavel... not on the bottom 6 and not with Hank... with Pavel. Brunner has proven he can score goals and, more than that, he competes which is something Franzen does not do. IMO Brunner deserves to play with Pavel much more than Franzen, and I think we will get better results as well.

What's that Lassie? Someone's in trouble?

I thought we had a deep prospect pool, as I'm always told. Yet, those prospects are sitting in the minors. Why is Tatar sent down when worse players are in the lineup every night? I understand things are getting tougher, but I feel like Babcock and Holland are making them even worse with terrible personnel decisions. Holland signed the wrong players in the offseason and made a dumb trade for Quincey before that. Babcock outdoes him by not playing Tatar and Nyquist and giving people like Cleary and Abdelkader too much trust. The fanbase should have high expectations. Name me one great team in sports, with a long successful history, that doesn't have spoiled fans with high expectations. I like that about our fans. We don't like mediocrity. If someone here doesn't accept that fact, they should go join another forum, where people are routinely happy about making the playoffs once in a while. I hardly hear anyone refer to Green Bay as that. And it's not pasted at the 50 yard line like Hockeytown is. Did anyone call Detroit Hockeytown in the 80's? Nope, and it's because they sucked.

Right because I complain all the time on the forums. I wouldn't have said anything. Keep the first rounder and draft a player, Quicey hasn't changed a thing on this Wings roster this year. We had him, then traded to get him back ? Pretty ridiculous. If you think Hossa isn't the best defensive winger in the game, even though it has been mentioned by hockey players that have far greater knowledge than you and me both (including Datsyuk complimenting how great his defensive game is) then i'm betting you don't watch much games.

get chris chelios behind the bench with babs and play some good cop bad cop. Have Chelios scream bloody murder at them and maybe then they will start listening to Babs a little more

Opinions are like an "Avery"; everyone has one.

Streaky? Right. They guy hasn't put up fewer than 20 goals since his rookie year (18) except in 08-09 when he had 13 goals and 10 assists in 17 games played. You can say a lot of things about Marian Gaborik, but any way you look at it the guy's an elite goal scorer.

The well wishes are appreciated, I'm actually pleasantly surprised to see that. There's a number of players in the league that I'm not a fan of but wouldn't want to see them hurt. For me personally I can't get too worked up about what people say about a player but I draw the line at injuries. They're still living, breathing human beings. From all I've heard his teeth pretty much just got annihilated, the surgery was for his teeth (yes, many "oral" jokes abound) Didn't hear anything about a break in the jaw (that is what worries me most right now) but they would likely want to take precautionary measures with the concussion as well though I am hoping that's not going to be an issue. The guy may as well just go and make the full turn to heel and just come back with a damn grill, hopefully that's all it will come to.

ive seen plenty of other people come here and laugh at redwings injuries and stuff ...i respect your opinion any other peoples here if they think im wrong but i wont apologize for hating crosby and being happy he got hurt sorry if it offends people but its my right to hate

I like babes as much as the next guy, if not more, but I don't lke eye candy that is there for the sole purpose of being eye candy fluff. I'd rather listen to Murph talk about the game I'm watching than listen to Eva Menendez read the script that some else wrote for her while trying to lok like she actally knows what she's talking about I like Mickey and Murph because they are a coupe of veterans talkng hockey and don't follw the same ESPN sports guy formula. The Wings experience is all about nostalgia, and he is an integral part of it. Edit: The ratings are tanking because of the product on the ice: I was dreading watching the Anaheim game all day long because I could not bear to watch them play half hearted and get destroyed by frikin Anaheim. (Luckily, I decided to have the game on while I did other things, but you get the point).