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According to my calculations, Sheahan scoring a goal tonight would rip a hole in the fabric of reality and propel us to three straight Cups.

Glendening from E!! no one would have called that.

LW C RW Gustav Nyquist Henrik Zetterberg Anthony Mantha Tomas Tatar Frans Nielsen Dylan Larkin Andreas Athanasiou Darren Helm Thomas Vanek Luke Glendening Riley Sheahan Justin Abdelkader Defensive Pairings Dan DeKeyser Mike Green Jonathan Ericsson Xavier Ouellet Niklas Kronwall Nick Jensen Petr Mrazek AA and Vanek down to the 3rd line, Sheahan is centering the first PP unit! Is it National "troll the fans" day? Mrazek in net, lines look rough, not entirely hopeful for this one. Maybe we get lucky and E puts in a goal or two off his shin or skate for us against their goalie for once. Woohoo LGW!! Can't wait to see how this one pans out.

It's O'IhatetheWings officiating so what do you expect.

Nice hip check. Horrible call

Ya'll jinxed it

GO PETR!!! You got this!! GO WINGS! Score some damn goals in THEIR net! I'm looking at YOU 52!!!!

And a player that is basically a spare part on an NHL team has no value in the trade market. If he can't crack this defense, he sure as hell won't crack anyone else's. I am certain that if he does get claimed, he will be waived by the team that claims him before the year ends. You can quote me on that.

We don't expect to see better results, we just expect to see proper development of our young players. Hard for that to happen when Blash punishes the kids for each little mistake, yet let vets reek with mediocrity all season long without losing their spot. We wanna see guys like Jurco and Sproul play, take their lumps and learn from it. Become better players. They are not going to improve as healthy scratches every night. We need a coach who has the balls to not be afraid to lose until the kids learn how to win. Blash has proven to not be that guy for nearly two years now. The experiment needs to end.

Not gonna lie. Entertaining first period. Entertaining in terms of both teams screwing s*** up on ice.

They won't win a game without him in net either. The whole team is s***. I think they've given up.

Had it been anyone other than Helm, he probably would've tried for the pass. Instead, he realized the futility of the situation and acted accordingly. And, frankly, I kind of respect that.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Yeah I can see him getting claimed. Not a huge deal since he's nothing special, but this move is just typical Holland. Waive a younger player who has a good chance of being claimed instead of a vet who wouldn't be claimed. Kronwall is finished and overpaid, Errorsson is useless and overpaid. They'd easily clear. This team is going to take forever to rebuild if he continues protecting his useless vets and ditching his younger guys for nothing. It's getting more and more unsettling as time goes on knowing Holland controls the Wings roster.

Sheahan helped by just standing there.

Well at least the players are feeling what the fans are now!

Well said. The kids aren't going to progress if they don't get to play. If Blash wasn't giving them the best opportunities and playing the vets regardless of their play because management and ownership wanted to continue the streak and he was under pressure to play them, I get that. But now that the playoffs are out of reach (Maybe not mathematically, but realistically, It's over.), there is no reason not to let the kids play as much as possible. Start the fire sale, and as roster spots open up, call up some of the top GR guys and give them some NHL experience too. May as well use the rest of this s***show season for something productive.

Hhahahahahaahha Jonas Mahonas and his Hocus Pocus.

I'll watch I'll watch it. I'll go down with the ship. This would be a good time to try to bribe Tavares over for the end of next year. A couple mill under the table, a nice house for the mom's, ya know.

...and yet Suter still wanted to come here (per Bob McKenzie) but his wife didn't want to live here (also per McKenzie.) Dude, I wanted Suter more than anyone, I was pissed off more than anyone, even if couldn't blame Holland. He offered him enough to get him to want to come here, in the end, the wife ruled. I do belive Holland also offered him $7.5 per season, it was just a year shorter. I could be wrong, but I am nearly positive he did not offer him $5.4M, that would've been an insult and there's no way we'd even be in consideration let alone in the final two.

Second sentence of your article.

About a week ago Ken Daniels said on hockey central at noon that he expects the Red Wings will sell at the deadline. Indicating that they will then regroup for next season (not tanking). Holland also said yesterday on 97.1 that no one on the team is untouchable trade-wise.

Ok...3 of those 4 ages are wrong. Pietrangelo is 27, Tarasenko is 25, Schwarz is actually 24 and Berglund is 28 (you are 7 years off with this one) and other then Tarasenko none of those players are elite. So based based on the fact that they don't appear to be getting any better and if anything are regressing (as a team), and they have proven they can not get it done in the playoffs, they should re-build....right? You always contended that since the Wings got bounced first round, they should tank. Shouldnt that apply to the Blues as well? For the record, I dont think they should, but my point is with your philosophy, any team that is not a favourite in the here and now, or are not a team that already suck but have a franchise player should automatically tank/re-build. It's easy to say after the fact when hindsight is 20/20 that a team should have re-built, but in the moment when your team is a contender, to just pull back and completely tear things down can be absolutely detrimental to a team and the fan base. The average fan is not going to put up with a team that is constantly hitting the reset button. You always bring up how the Wings should have started a re-build in 2012, which I'm sorry but at the time was just wrong. I dont know of any team that has 2 elite players on their roster, and a solid group of complementary talent that would make that decision, not to mention there is no way the fans would have accepted it. Add to that the fact that in 2013 we were 1 goal away from making the final 4 and knocking out the eventual cup champions, and it completely makes sense why would Holland did not tear anything down. What he did was start a re-build on the fly and hoped that his kids would become high end players before his elite players regressed, in theory it made sense as it worked between 2002 and 2008. In hindsight, our big 4 regressed quicker then we expected due to injury, and our kids didn't amount to more then top 6 players. When that happened, the next logical move was to speed up the re-build, which Holland sort of did. With that being said, I am not going to sit here and make it sound like Holland is perfect, he is far from it and definitely made mistakes, especially this past summer. I think that the Nielsen, Ott, and Miller signings were all bad decisions on his part. I think he should have ate Datsyuk's contract, though I get why he didn't considering the reaction from the fans, but never the less it was still a mistake as I think he should have brought up Mantha, Bertuzzi and whomever from the start and rolled with it. I still think that the young core of this team is very good, and with a few extra pieces I think they can make some noise. Hopefully we trade Vanek and Green before the deadline, and try to get rid of Howard and E in the summer. If we pull off those moves, get a good draft pick, trade for the d-man we so desperately need, and throw in a coaching change for a guy like Hitchcock, and I think we are in a lot better of a position then most think.

Unfortunately no (i'm the sweetheart he was refering to) Bill (that's Jonas's real name) has seen his memory go the last few years, so I wouldn't trust his story anymore either. He couldnt find Norway on a map, let alone North America at this point (sorry Bill honey I love you!) I mostly let him post on this board between his feedings and changing as he can only move his fingers to type. I'm sorry that he's been a bother. Good luck on your story!

This team is as bad as it is in large part because of Blashill's incompetence. Not giving AA a ton off PP time because of his defensive lapses, but giving Helm, Abdelkader, and Sheahan time there because "puck retrieval and defense" is borer line retarded. The PP is supposed to possess the puck, not dump it in, and score, not be defensively responsible. Sheahan and Glendening playing anywhere but the 4th line is equally moronic. I get that they do some good things, but if a forward can't score, he's not very useful 5 on 5. Hell, even the goons in the 80's and 90's would get a goal or two a year. Glendening averaging 13:50 TOI a game, 1 goal in 50 games. Sheahan ZERO goals playing 14:30 a night in 48 games. Neither would be playing 10 minutes a night for a competent coach, and they'd likely be scratches or waived by a good team. that's about 2/3 of the problem. Blashill is the worst coach in the NHL. He's a moron. I half expect him to yell "CASH ME OUSSIDE HOW BOW DAH????" next time a reporter questions his player usage. The other third is roster management. Anyone still think Helm, Glendening, Abdelkader, and Nielsen were worth those contracts? Helm and Abdelkader are nearing the age where players like them tend to start slowing down and are at the early part of their deals. Helm's on a 33 point pace over a full season. Abdelkader is on a 26 point pace. Glendening is at best an average 4th line player, the kind of guy who gets by on working hard and is easily replaceable. Nielsen hasn't been bad, but you give a guy like him a contract when you're a contender and need a second line center to put you over the top, not when you need to rebuild. They needed to re-sign Dekeyser, and that's the type of deal guys like him get, but he's over his head playing on the top pairing and Holland did nothing to bring in someone to help. The scary part is Holland is still talking like they have a chance at making the playoffs and actually doing something. I have a bad feeling he's going to stand pat at the deadline because "you can't lose guys like Vanek and Green when you're trying to make the playoffs."