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Plunger just helped our back-end logjam. The Universe smiles upon us.

Get him to a pool party, just saiyan.

This from Wikipedia: Eager for the chance to select Puempel, Ottawa traded a pair of second-round picks (35th and 48th overall) to Detroit in order to obtain the 24th overall spot in the 2011 draft.

LW C RW ANTHONY MANTHA HENRIK ZETTERBERG GUSTAV NYQUIST TOMAS TATAR DYLAN LARKIN JUSTIN ABDELKADER MARTIN FRK FRANS NIELSEN DARREN HELM SCOTT WILSON LUKE GLENDENING LUKE WITKOWSKI DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS JONATHAN ERICSSON TREVOR DALEY NIKLAS KRONWALL MIKE GREEN XAVIER OUELLET NICK JENSEN LW C RW DANIEL SEDIN HENRIK SEDIN MARKUS GRANLUND SVEN BAERTSCHI ALEX BURMISTROV BROCK BOESER SAM GAGNER BO HORVAT THOMAS VANEK DEREK DORSETT BRANDON SUTTER JAKE VIRTANEN DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS MICHAEL DEL ZOTTO CHRIS TANEV BEN HUTTON ERIK GUDBRANSON DERRICK POULIOT TROY STECHER Howard and Markstrom comfirmed.

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You're right. I'm starting to wonder about our scouts ability. It seems as though Holland keeps having to clean up their busts with these trades he's been doing. Interesting to see your support of Holland. You may be onto something about the scouts doing a poor job though.

No, the pick didnt pan out. Sunk Cost. Mistake was made in 2010, not 2017. You can't hold on to a player because of what he used to be worth, you have to be able to make the tough decision and give him up when the time is right. And again, with your logic that means the Sproul trade was a huge win soley based on the fact that we traded a 2nd round pick for a 1st round pick. Again, where they were picked doesnt matter in 2017. You want to criticize Holland for taking Sheahan, go for it. You want to criticize the organization as a whole for not developing Sheahan better, go for it. But to criticize the Wings for trading him because he was a 1st rounder 7 years ago......not valid.

Still better option than Ericsson

I don't know much about him, but he looks to be a decent upgrade over Booth and Witkowski.

He'll have arbritration rights so if they don't find a deal he can go to the arbiter to decide. He could hold out on the deal that is decided through that process (Hudler-style) and play in the KHL, but there wouldn't be this prolonged stalemate.

This, this and more this! It's sad that there are fans that are so blinded by their confirmation bias for Holland that they are incapable of viewing each of his moves on their individual merit. Is there a substantive argument in there somewhere that I am missing?

Dammit Samsung! Meanwhile:

Who?

AA will have arbitration rights next summer, If he has a good year this year. Next summer he should get a decent salary probably in the $3 million+ neighborhood.

Yes it is? Totally agree, Sheahan had no future in Detroit. So that's a win win trade in my book. Only when you're Ken Holland, And over pricing your own players.

What does that even matter? It's where they are as players now, where they were drafted is a moot point unless the topic is how successful was the 2010 draft. Besides, we got Matt Puempel today who was also a 1st round pick, so it all evens out with your logic anyways.

Unremarkable depth winger. Has some skill and scoring ability (drafted 24th overall), but he's settled in as a(n) AHLer/fringe NHLer. He should help the Griffins, who could use the extra scoring punch at forward.

It's Holland so it must be a bad deal. Seriously though, I found this article that speaks well of him. Seems like he is the kind of guy that will fit in well and will be liked by the fans. http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2017/05/19/Scott-Wilson-Penguins-Ottawa-Senators-Stanley-Cup-playoffs-NHL/stories/201705190083

Pretty much what I was thinking. Also liked Sproul but would prefer younger guys get a chance in GR over him. Also! I actually agree with WiiM for once first time for everything? https://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2017/10/21/16514650/red-wings-trade-riley-sheahan-ryan-sproul-penguins-rangers-for-scott-wilson-matt-puempel-picks

Good trade, no question. Especially upgrading the pick, that's exactly what we need.

LOL. "Puempel" is the german word for "plunger" - hopefully Holland has better plans for him!

Matt Puempel and Scott Wilson for Sproul and Sheahan? Great haul Holland...

It is what it is, this is a result of the RFA/UFA system created by the NHL & NHLPA with the current CBA. You can blame Holland for a lot of things, but his tactics in RFA negotiations should not be one of them. It's crazy how people just have their anti-Holland goggles on and refuse to look at the facts, and instead react purely on emotion.

Never in a million years will i miss the troughs, And i only attended 3 games at the Joe in my entire lifetime. Can't wait to visit LCA it's by far the best arena so far in the nation.