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Conflict in the Crease
roboturner and 3 others reacted to GoalieManPat for a post in a topic
Lets look at this from a different angle for those that want Mrazek playing 70+ games. He is the future of this team no doubt. This team needs Howard to get into games and play well though. They tried to trade him all off season and nobody bit. He has no trade value and there was no guarantee LV would take him. They need him to play in 25+ games and to play well. If he keeps playing like he is then come trade deadline someone will definitely be offering up for him and at the very least he probably gets taken in the expansion draft and the Wings get some cap relief. If they dont play him we will be in this same two goaltender boat next year so everyone needs to really push for him to play well and get in games. -
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
kickazz and one other reacted to F.Michael for a post in a topic
Not sure why so many here are so quick to point out how Mrazek should be our undisputed #1 netminder when clearly he's already had some inconsistent performances in this early 2016/2017 season. One fine performance doesn't wash away the foul taste of a crappy performance that he had this evening...That's like saying a fine single malt scotch will wash away the flavor of a steaming hot turd sandwich...Just isn't gonna happen. We're lucky to have both guys since neither one appears capable of handling 70 plus games as a true starter like King Henrik. -
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Conflict in the Crease
RyanBarnes! and one other reacted to Richdg for a post in a topic
You play the hot hand. Right now Howard is playing better than Mrasek. A month from now that may reverse. But you always play the better guy. -
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Conflict in the Crease
puckloo39 and one other reacted to GoalieManPat for a post in a topic
Simple fact is Mrazek hasnt grabbed ahold and claimed the starter as his own and Howard has played strong enough to put his name back into consideration. Regardless of whos in net the other 18 guys in the lineup are not that good and are the real teams issues. Whos #1 and #2 doesn't change the real weakness of the team. I see what your saying HM and I agree with that philosophy but only when you have an establish go to starter. Mrazek has shown flashes of greatness but in two seasons has not shown he can be the heavy workload starter while keeping up a high standard of play. With that scenario you need a timeshare in net. Currently Mrazek is on pace to play in over 2/3rds of the season games. Thats perfectly fine for a young goalie trying to prove himself. -
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
FireCaptain and one other reacted to Echolalia for a post in a topic
I'd personally rather back the goalie with the better goals against and save percentage, especially when hes leading the league in both categories. -
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
kickazz and one other reacted to MabusIncarnate for a post in a topic
That's how I see it, the only goaltenders in the league that get 65-70 starts per season are the established veterans like Price, Lundqvist, those guy who have many seasons on their resume as #1 starters. Mrazek essentially played 2 months of great hockey last season, he's not cemented in as the clear, undeniable #1 on this team. He needs to get to that point before he starts playing back to backs and 65+ per season. I think it's being handled how it should be right now. -
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Conflict in the Crease
kickazz reacted to MabusIncarnate for a post in a topic
Discuss and debate our goaltending situation here. Should Mrazek be going full on right now, starting all games except back to backs? Is Howard being overused? Or should Howard's early performance be reflected on his playtime and does Mrazek need to earn his spot as the undisputed number one for the Wings? -
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Conflict in the Crease
e_prime reacted to DickieDunn for a post in a topic
But is Mrazek really the #1? Both were excellent last year for a stretch and both were hot garbage for a stretch. I haven't seen anything to say he's for sure the better goalie right now. Regardless, having your starter play in 50-55 games is ideal. Keeps him busy but doesn't burn him out. -
1 pointEven if that was true (which I don't recall it being the case), the difference here is that we're a playoff team that wants to get into playoffs every year. They don't have a losing mentality, and management would probably never accept that way of thinking. They would rather win than force an inconsistent goalie to become consistent by playing him 70 games. Remember how Howard lost the starting goalie position? Because he was inconsistent. They played Mrazek instead. Now I don't think Howard all of a sudden becomes a starting goalie, I just think they will continue to treat him as a reliable backup.
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What Happens to the Defense Once Kronwall Returns?
DRW Dominance reacted to e_prime for a post in a topic
Green - DK Kronwall - Sproul Ericsson - Smith XO/Marchenko -
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
kickazz reacted to PavelValerievichDatsyuk for a post in a topic
That's not the way I remember it at all. Halak played 35games 08-09, and 45 in 09-10 (more than half in his last year in MTL). Then in 10 Halak played through the playoffs though Price had played 3 full season in the league. They just played whoever was winning even though they knew the younger stud goalie would eventually take over. I think that's exactly what we should do. Mrazek will get his 60+ game seasons when he finds consistency, just like Price did. -
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
MrazekFanBoy reacted to e_prime for a post in a topic
He played three (NYR, SJS, BOS) plus part of tonight's game. The team in front of him has only played one of those games. So... yeah... GO AVERAGE JIMMY GO! (if only to increase your trade value) -
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
brett reacted to GMRwings1983 for a post in a topic
Mods, please delete all the nice comments I made in that Sharks GDT. -
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
Hockeymom1960 reacted to MrazekFanBoy for a post in a topic
Howard always starts the year off good or did we forget lol. Every goalie lets in soft goals even Price, Howard is good but he ain't better than Mrazek he doesn't have the confidence or athleticism, our "defense" is trash and our forwards can't forecheck because they are small, The wings have success when they play a speedy transition game but we don't have the backend to do that on a nightly basis -
1 point#FreeMantha
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
roboturner reacted to kickazz for a post in a topic
Lol? Theres no panic button. But this is why we don't treat Howard as a complete backup. Mrazek isn't a consistent goalie yet. And neither was Carey Price when he first started fyi. -
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
puckloo39 reacted to marcaractac for a post in a topic
Is this because Mrazek scores goals? Because the game was lost because the team scored zero goals. And they are now on their way of having scored just 2 in three games. The team has outplayed their opponents twice this season. Mrazek does not fix that. -
1 pointIt's always easiest to blame the goalies (not that everyone here is doing that). The team needs a lot of work, if missing Vanek does this to them.
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10/30 GDT : Florida Panthers 5, at Red Wings 2
F.Michael reacted to GoalieManPat for a post in a topic
Except plenty of other goalies have no trouble with it. If at the NHL level you can't handle 3 days off you are not a #1. Mrazek numbers are piss poor right now. You want more games you got to keep the puck out of the net. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk -
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Pulkkinen claimed by Minnesota Wild
FireCaptain reacted to Euro_Twins for a post in a topic
That didn't take long. what no trades available? -
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Pulkkinen claimed by Minnesota Wild
FireCaptain reacted to HockeytownRules19 for a post in a topic
Check Please Haters! lol -
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Pulkkinen claimed by Minnesota Wild
FireCaptain reacted to germanwing for a post in a topic
Minnesota Wild @mnwild 8 Min.Vor 8 Minuten #mnwild has placed Teemu Pulkkinen on waivers. -
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What Happens to the Defense Once Kronwall Returns?
F.Michael reacted to hillbillywingsfan for a post in a topic
If it were up to me Ouellet would sit. No way you sit Sproul with the way he has been playing. -
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The MANtha watch.....
Hockeymom1960 reacted to LeftWinger for a post in a topic
http://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2016/10/wings-notes-mantha.html Some news and notes.