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The Prospects Tournament starts tomorrow. Red Wings Schedule Friday, September 8th 11:30 a.m. - Carolina vs. Detroit 07:30 p.m. - Detroit vs. Carolina Saturday, September 9th 09:30 a.m. - Chicago vs. Detroit 04:00 p.m. - Chicago vs. Detroit Sunday, September 10th 10:45 a.m. - Chicago vs. Detroit Monday, September 11th 11:30 a.m. - NY Rangers vs. Detroit 07:00 p.m. - NY Rangers vs. Detroit West Tuesday, September 12th 10:00 a.m. - 06:30 p.m. - Playoff Games 07:00 p.m. - Championship Game *** All games will be live streamed on FOX Sports Go and DetroitRedWings.com *** Red Wings Roster Forwards C Dominic Turgeon - Drafted 2014 3rd Round C Michael Rasmussen - Drafted 2017 1st Round C Axel Holmstrom - Drafted 2014 7th Round C Zach Gallant - Drafted 2017 3rd Round C Brady Gilmour - Drafted 2017 7th Round C Luke Kutkevicius - Free Agent Invitee LW Dylan Sadowy - Drafted 2014 3rd Round (acquired from the San Jose Sharks) LW Givani Smith - Drafted 2016 2nd Round LW Luke Esposito - Signed in 2017 LW Oliver Castleman - Free Agent Invitee RW Lane Zablocki - Drafted 2017 3rd Round RW Dominik Shine - Signed in 2017 RW Sean Josling - Free Agent Invitee RW Evgeny Svechnikov - Drafted 2015 1st Round Defensemen Filip Hronek - Drafted 2016 2nd Round Vili Saarijarvi - Drafted 2015 3rd Round Libor Sulak - Signed in 2017 Reilly Webb - Drafted 2017 6th Round Dennis Cholowski - Drafted 2016 1st Round Patrick McCarron - Signed in 2017 Jordan Sambrook - Drafted 2016 5th Round Cole Fraser - Drafted 2017 5th Round Goalies Corbin Boes - Free Agent Invitee Kaden Fulcher - Free Agent Invitee Matej Machovsky - Signed in 2017

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Yeah, 3 kids with the same agent being among the last 9 RFAs to sign (though Bennett has now been signed) is a bit telling. I think this is another case of Wings fans being spoiled by success. While the KHL threat is somewhat unique for a non-Russian player, long and/or contentious RFA negotiations are fairly commonplace around the league. But the Wings haven't had a real interesting RFA problem that I can think of since Fedorov 20 years ago. (Dekeyser took a while to get signed a few years ago, but I don't recall any time when we weren't confident that it would get done.) Makes the whole thing seem worse because we aren't used to it.

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I will now start being super blunt about the KHL. Going there isn't tax free and in fact he could be double taxed because Russia may not have a double taxation law like the US has. Here are relevant quotes on the topic of a Canadian citizen working overseas (Russia): This is straight from the Canadian government. Here's from Canadian tax experts: So unless AA becomes a permanent resident of Russia, he has to pay taxes. The whole AA won't pay taxes is a trope that needs to die. He has to pay taxes. And he actually will likely pay less by playing in Michigan (both total amount and effective rate) than he would in Kazan because the US government has provisions that prevent you from being effectively double taxed.

So Holland's whole rationale for not paying AA is that he'd then have to pay Mantha and Larkin more than the standard "bridge" deals as well. He seems to be pretty dated in how he handles salary negotiations. Many organizations are foregoing the "bridge" deal and locking young talent up to longer term contracts these days. For example, Columbus game Alexander Wennberg 4.9 million over six years coming off his entry level contract. Likewise, Nashville have Viktor Arvidsson 4.25 million over 7 years. Both were coming off their entry level contracts and were RFAs. Considering both of these guys are better than AA, I'd say 2.5-3 million would be good for him, but over a long term

"Why does God hate me?" - Martin Frk, 2017

Apparently we have a thread dedicated to pretty much every prospect (even Svechnikov's brother) except Svechnikov...

An interesting read about the situation http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/athanasiou-bennett-and-the-nhl-s-problem-with-arbitration-rights

maybe(hopefully) a sign AA has decided against the KHL? They could always make another trade of course but here's to hoping.

AA got an offer from AK Bars Kazan. Kazan is the muslim city in TATARstan, Russia. The people are ethnically considered "Tatars". Maybe he wants to meet a hot muslim chick. Or naybe the Tatar at home isn't good enough for him. He could just drive 20 min from the LCA to Dearborn and meet muslim girls there. Or drive 25 min to Royal Oak to meet a Tatar there with the first name of Tomas. He's being so irrational!

It's probably just his agent looking for as much leverage as he can where his client would usually have next to none. I could also understand the Olympics being a factor.. wouldn't blame him for wanting to play there. I still feel like AA will end up signing before camp but we'll see I suppose.

Stadium will be sold out every game.

There's no roster limit in the AHL, and judging from past seasons we will probably carry 8 D there. I'd expect McCarron, Hronek, and Saarijarvi will all battle for a spot in the lineup, though I wouldn't be that surprised if one or both of the latter two were to pass one or both of Lashoff/Renouf on the depth chart. Like Krsmith said, Tansey likely doesn't make the cut and Sulak will head to Finland until next year. Cholowski heading to junior seems to be set as well.

That's a mis-characterization. What was said is that he doesn't want to set the precedent of letting a player use a KHL offer to determine their NHL value. Nothing about bridge deals at all. Seeing as the KHL offer is reportedly one year, it's a bit of a speculative leap to assume that he would accept that amount over a longer-term deal. That said, $3M would probably not be a bad deal even short-term, though it is a bit above the apparent market value. Also, it's probably premature to say bridge deals are "dated". Not going to bother looking, but I'd bet there are many more recent examples of players who have signed bridge deals than not. At least for players around AA's level.

you have to leave in order to be missed...

so when Parenateau rubs someone out against the boards is it called a pap smear?

I still think people are reading too much into this situation and getting too worked up. The way I see it, nothing too unusual or alarming has happened, at least according to the reports/rumors that have been circulating. Holland opened with a lowball offer, as you'd expect him -- or anyone else in his position -- to do. Athanasiou's camp came to the table with an unrealistically high demand, as expected. The agent is clearly using the KHL as leverage, as any agent would do. (The KHL card is the only one AA can play; it's the only leverage he has. Such is the plight of the RFA.) Holland countered with a perfectly good let's-meet-in-the-middle offer, as you'd expect him to do. This is all pretty standard stuff. The next and final step is "AA signs with the Wings." Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. If he does, great. If he doesn't and instead goes to the KHL (assuming this KHL thing isn't smoke and mirrors), then oh well, best of luck to him in his future endeavors. Holland can't allow himself to be bullied by an unproven RFA. He can't set that precedent.

I think it's really interesting, and also pretty damn scary, that we've been in the position of potentially losing AA and Mrazek this summer because this team couldn't find a way to make them work in the system for one reason or another. No matter what you think of either of these players all in all at the end of the day, on a team that's sorely lacking in young talent, these are two guys who have at times shown some of the best potential we've seen from our roster. Why is Mrazek struggling so much when he's shown that he's clearly capable of elite-level play and has had two solid playoff outings under his belt, and why in the hell are we seriously in a position where we made him available to Vegas in the expansion draft? Why is AA ready to go to Russia at this point in his career? Again, on a team that's so sorely lacking in legitimate young talent, these two things should be unthinkable. You've really got to wonder what is going on with this team from the top down that this stuff is going on. Money always plays a part in it, but it seems reasonable to suggest that it's a given that there's gotta be more to it, and clearly Blashill doesn't seem to be a player favorite, and few people seem able to come up with much to defend him. Only thing I'll say to defend Blash is that he is a young NHL coach, and he's been dealt a s*** hand. Has he made countless fumbles? Yes, absolutely. But he could come around down the line, I'm willing to be open minded about it. But not on this team. Already too much poison in the air. Holland has to move aside for someone with a clear and new direction, and Blash has got to go. Probably next summer. But hey, like Frank said, maybe we can ride this dumpster fire to that big #1 pick! Funny.

Wow pages upon pages for a guy who has insane speed but lacks defensive ability and doesn't seem to be a low maintenance type of player and who experts project as a 3rd line center. I' not saying AA is wrong here it' not his job to manage or help out with the cap. If AA and his camp think they are worth more and the Wings aren' willing or able to offer it ask for a trade publicly. Otherwise sign a KHL contract play in the Olympics and increase your value further. I believe getting fixated on any current player is a mistake because next year when the real rebuild starts a new core needs to be build, vets on ltir... Wheter AA stays or goes has no impact on that but of course it would reflect poorly on the organization from top to botttom because it would show a lack of long-term thinking in terms of signings and cap management