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krsmith17 and 2 others reacted to kliq for a post in a topic
100% agree with the bold, everyone needs to stop being so emotional about all of this, its not like we have one more day to make a trade for the next 2 years. The goal tomorrow is to trade our soon to be UFA's. IF a great offer comes in for a guy like Tatar or Nyquist, take it, but I would rather hang on to them and trade them later, then to trade them for peanuts. Some people are just so eager for moves, its like they will accept anything. -
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13dangledangle and 2 others reacted to Neomaxizoomdweebie for a post in a topic
I'm confused. Why do we need to trade everyone away now? The only guys where there is a sense of urgency to trade now is Green (pending UFA) and Mrazek (upcoming RFA who wasn't going to be re-signed). Every other player besides Booth (no trade value) has term left. When it comes to the TDL, term = less value. Tatar has 3 years left. Nyquist, Howard, and Ouellet all have one more year left. They'll be easier to trade this summer or next season and will get more in return. If this team is rebuilding, shouldn't we try to get the most back even if it means waiting a little longer? Why the urgency? As long as these guys aren't being re-signed or let go w/o any return, what's the big deal? I would rather wait and get a good prospect than trade now and get an average one. A 2nd rounder next year is better than a 3rd rounder this year and so on. Let's be patient and wait to see what happens before we climb aboard the annual "Holland is the worst" train. Holland would be a bigger idiot for trading players when their stock is lower, especially when he can be patient and get a better return. That is his job isn't it? Now, if the TDL passes and Green is still here, then flame away. If guys like Nyquist, Howard, etc aren't traded eventually and we lose them for nothing when they become UFAs, I'll be right there with you calling for Holland's head. But if and until that happens: -
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kliq and one other reacted to krsmith17 for a post in a topic
Yes. Remember though, a lot of trades aren't made official until after the 3pm deadline. Give it until around 4pm, until we break out the pitchforks... -
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Konnan511 and one other reacted to LeftWinger for a post in a topic
Holland is just ironing out the conditions of the 6th round pick. If Tampa wins the Cup and Mike scores 10 goals, gets the Conn Smythe and does a piroeutte after every goal, it'll become a 2025 5th. -
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The Datsyukian Deke and one other reacted to Jasper84 for a post in a topic
Part of me wants this to happen just because the Leafs fans are getting all worked up and don't want him. The other part of me doesn't want to give him up for what the leafs would pay. -
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kliq and one other reacted to robb himself for a post in a topic
Deadline is still 2 hours and 20 minutes away. Put down the pitch forks fellas. -
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PavelValerievichDatsyuk and one other reacted to krsmith17 for a post in a topic
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krsmith17 and one other reacted to PavelValerievichDatsyuk for a post in a topic
People seem to really want to read the worst out of Holland's words. The maintain the culture has always been a thing around the Wings. Doesn't mean we won't trade anyone - just they believe in vets guiding the next iteration of Wings. All that says to me is they're not trading Z and Kronwall and some other vets, but we already knew that so what's the deal? As for the "open for business next 2 years" that's showing that we're really doing a rebuild and not just patching holes to try to limp in the playoffs next year. And as others have said, potential trades like Nyquist, Helm? Tatar? etc. aren't typical deadline deals and would be done over the next couple of years. -
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ChristopherReevesLegs and one other reacted to cchase231 for a post in a topic
The Seattle Sea Men. /done -
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krsmith17 and one other reacted to kliq for a post in a topic
Nope, you're just freaking out. From Khan today: MLIVE.COM: Ansar Khan reports the Red Wings seek “a first-round pick or at least some combination involving multiple high picks and a prospect.” They’ve had extensive talks with the Lightning and Green is willing to waive his no-movement clause if a deal can be worked out with Tampa Bay. Toronto and Florida are also linked to Green, while Khan observes the Capitals lack the cap space to bring Green back to Washington. The Wings would also like to move Tomas Tatar or Gustav Nyquist. The Predators are among several clubs with interest in Tatar. -
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PavelValerievichDatsyuk and one other reacted to kliq for a post in a topic
Very rare that guys traded on trade deadline have term left on their contract. As far as the bold, he didnt say that, I dont have the energy to argue with you about this today. -
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PavelValerievichDatsyuk and one other reacted to krsmith17 for a post in a topic
Yes but it's usually the pending UFA's that get the highest value. I personally think it's smarter to trade for players with term, but for whatever reason (I assume cap flexibility) NHL GM's would prefer rentals. Let's say (hypothetically) we can get a 3rd for Nyquist at this trade deadline, or we can get a 2nd plus a prospect at next year's deadline. Would you prefer the higher return or the instant gratification? Something tells me you'd prefer to get whatever you can now, not giving much thought into what you could potentially get in the future. We should not be in a rush to trade players, other than Green, who will be traded today. Like others have mentioned, you don't trade Nyquist / Tatar / Howard for peanuts. That would be terrible asset management. -
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2/25 - GDT: Red Wings at Rangers - 7:30 PM EST. NHL Trade Deadline Edition
puckloo39 and one other reacted to Y19 for a post in a topic
Victory! Daley goal with 5.6 seconds left in OT! -
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PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
This is the 2nd time we've been sellers at the deadline in 20+ years. So when you say "every TDL" you mean last year right? Anyway if Calgary and Winnipeg wanna make an offer sweet, I just think it's smarter to add term commitments in the summer when the waters are clear. But to each GM, their own. Prices seem to be up again this year. Papa like. -
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PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
It's not deadline day until I've gotten at least 1 kill yo self remark. Thanks n god bless. -
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LeftWinger reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
I took the day off today to enjoy this deadline. First off, let's all please remember the only player that NEEDS to be traded today is Mike Green. Anyone else is a little bonus. That being said Karlsson and McDonagh are really gonna f*** things up for us. -
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LeftWinger reacted to amato for a post in a topic
Green will be traded for sure. Sounds like interest in Glendenning and Tatar has been picking up.. that interest will need to be worth it though. We seem to wait until closer to the deadline to make deals usually.. time will tell. -
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krsmith17 reacted to dmbongreyst for a post in a topic
Why would Tatar and Nyquist have less value at next years deadline than today? All of the trades made so far have been for players with expiring deals. -
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amato reacted to The Datsyukian Deke for a post in a topic
Exactly...biases? What biases? It's the complete opposite, more like groundhog day. But, I really liked the return in the Smith-trade. So I'll wait for tomorrow before I push KH off the cliff.. -
1 pointRight. I get that, and I don’t blame those with these biases.. there are some moves/contracts i haven’t agreed with either. I’d just like to see a little less overreaction in any fanbase that I consider myself a part of, that’s all.
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1 pointI’ll be in section 101, row 16. Wife killed it with the Birthday present this year!!
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chaps80 reacted to MileHighWingsGuy for a post in a topic
Yep another deadline will come and go. Everyone try to act shocked when AA is traded for a third and we get the KH treatment concerning the rest. Dude should have been fired years ago, he’s the worst.