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No. I like the idea of having a Larkin-AA-Helm 1,2,3 punch down the middle as we would likely have the fastest center's in the league, plus I think we can end up getting Trouba for less. With the right line-mates I think Larkin has a ton of potential.

No logo is safe when Helm takes the shot.

that Tater goal was confident Red Wings hockey and a team effort I hope and pray to see more of. They make me happy when they play like that!!

The Dekesyer deal sets bad precedent. Once the Wings have a defensemen that can put up 25 points he's going to expect similar money. Abdelkader's deal is a nightmare. Made absolutely no sense when he signed it. Got fair market value for his one career season but then tacked on 7 years that benefited nobody but Abby. This is Holland's worst contract he's ever handed out Nielson I am fine with

Tatar! What a pretty tic-tac-toe play!

What a play.

LGW!! I know this sounds bad, but I kinda hope Sheahan goes the whole season without a goal.

I think you'd definitely have to think long and hard, but I'd have a hard time pulling the trigger on that trade straight up. The two hardest (most important) positions to fill in hockey are number one center and number one defenseman, and I think both Larkin and Trouba will get there in their respective positions. Larkin is the only guy in the organization with 1C potential in my opinion, and I'd rather overpay in other areas than give up a 20 year old with that ceiling. I still think (hope) a deal surrounding Tatar / Nyquist, high end prospect / high draft pick could be enough to get it done, closer to the expansion draft... Winnipeg may be perfectly fine going the 8 player, 1 goalie route, and protecting 4 defensemen and 4 forwards, but there's a reason most teams would prefer to go with 3 defensemen, 7 forwards, 1 goalie, it allows protection of 2 extra players. If the Jets go the former, they will likely lose a young kid like Dano, Lowry or Armia. None are likely to be huge losses, but moving a defenseman (Trouba) prior to the draft, while gaining valuable assets would allow them to protect more players. They would then be able to protect their other 3 defensemen, plus an extra 3 forwards, including one they could potentially gain in any trade...

I would not, could not trade Larkin for Trouba. oof. Too much "Green Eggs and Ham"

Absolutely. Not that it would happen. I'm hoping Larkin rebounds with the kind of play he showed in the first half of last season at some point. Right now it's been over a full season since he regressed, but everyone on the team regressed for the most part.

It all depends on where they finish in the draft lottery. I mean, win the lottery, then absolutely. Trade Larkin for Trouba. But beyond that, it is just creating one hole by filling another. Which is why trying to use the pick to get him may be the best option.

we cant trade mantha aa or larkin..who else in the future do we have to score? anyone else fine. trouba might not be the best but team needs a change. i would take a top 2 dmen that puts up no points but can play ******* defense and maybe teach others how to play defense more than anything

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2017/02/ask_ansar_on_future_of_red_win_2.html#incart_river_index Ansar's thoughts: In regards to Assistant coaching changes... In regards to Vanek... In regards to trading either Tatar or Nyquist... In regards to trading Mike Green... In regards to young guns... So Blashill is here for the rest of year at the very least. Vanek is gone for good. Green likely staying for at least one more season. Perhaps a deal for Tatar or Nyquist will get done in offseason? Looking at you Trouba.

I remember the rumor back in October that Chevy asked for Larkin in return. Certainly seems like attitudes have changed. Most scoffed in October. Larkin is still someone I would not move personally. He'll be a top line center at some point IMO

I agree with the majority of this with the exception of the bold part. History has to play a part in suspensions. The analogy you used of "Are you going to give someone a slap on the wrist for assault just because they haven't done it before?" of course should not be the case, however, if you have a person who is a repeat offender and has assaulted multiple people, IMO should be punished more then a person who is a first time offender. I think the big issue here is that the NHL does not hand out harsh enough punishments, so players keep doing it AND they treat star players differently then the average player. I have said it before, if you want to take the crap out of the game you need harsher consequences. For example, if you want to take head-shots out of the game, make it a 41 game suspension for elbows to the head. Guarantee that cleans up the game dramatically. Problem is the NHL and NHLPA will never agree to something like that as the PA will fight it thinking it is unfair to players (which is ironic), and the NHL will not want to risk losing money if it happens to stars.

Yeah he's really good, I just like gambling

I don't think you think highly enough of Trouba, or what he would bring to this team... All his numbers point to him being a legit top pair defenseman, right now at the age of 22, and he will most likely develop into a true number one within the next year or two. Trouba would instantly be our undisputed number one (I know, not saying much on this team...), he logs a ton of minutes, can run a power-play, kill penalties, hits, blocks shots, clears the net-front, and drives possession. What are the chances we get anything close to that in this years draft? I'd say slim to none. Sure, Liljegren could develop into a good offensive defenseman, maybe he even becomes a top pair guy, but I highly doubt he will become anything close to a well rounded player like Trouba.

Too much analysis. Showing loyalty to Cleary wasn't a big deal in my opinion. He didn't hold anyone back, same with Abby. All our young players are either here now, or had their chance. With Datsyuk and Zetterberg, the Wings Management we're going to go for it to try and win Championships. Once one of them retired, it would be time to rebuild. Datsyuk's gone, so we are in the rebuild stage.

I'm getting a little tired of hearing about how great Hakkan Andersson is. Yeah, he got some good players who turned out to be a hell of a lot better than they were projected to be when not as many teams were investing much money scouting the backwaters of Europe. Since Franzen, who has he dug up that turned into anything special? People complain that Holland is resting on his laurels and getting a pass because of what he did years ago, why is Andersson still considered some scouting god?

Fixed!

And it only took me 10,932 tries! I think my percentage may still be better than the Wings power play...ah, nope, I forgot they got one the other night! I'm slightly behind!

...the tire is on fire...and Kenny is kicking it. But it won't go out, it just sits there, burning, smoking, filling the lungs of all Wings fans with toxic fumes of death...kick it some more Kenny!

The Red Wings organization has become one big circle jerk. And the circle is a tire. And the tire is on fire. And Trevor's interviewing someone's parents because Michigan.