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I agree we need to get rid of some players, but you know that not all players are going to be all stars right? If a guy like Nyquist can score 25-30 goals and get 60 points, that is solid production from a secondary scorer getting paid just over 4mil per year. The key is to mix high end talent with secondary scoring, the problem is that right now ALL we have is secondary scoring.

There is no debate, right now Crosby is the best player in the world. I'm sure at some point McDavid will pass him, but that time has not happened yet.

Since we're not making the playoffs, why not call him up and let him punch a few faces? God forbid Wings fans who attend games should have something to get excited about this season.

Right, I guess I should've said hopefully he plays well enough to stay in the lineup. I really don't see why they'd play miller over him.. but it wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.

I will never ever understand why Goose is being harped on so much, it's not his fault that some guys were expecting him to continue the insane rookie campaign, where he basically brought this team into the PO with his play. Around 60 points to me is very good for a second line winger. The Winger position is the easiest to fill but the Wings do have some pieces there it's the center and defense which screams for elite talent...if these 2 positions aren't on par with other teams the results can be seen with this years Wings edition and to some extent in Colorado, Dallas. With that being said Goose and Tatar are so similar still youngish and should net the Wings a solid return maybe package them up with Green and see if that could finally lead to GMs at least listening on trades of their top defenseman.

Yes, this should have been exactly the time to increase the role of the youngster and see if Larkin could be a potential 1 center, is AA capable of maybe becoming a 2c? and which young GR player can realistically be at the team next season. This is exactly what shortterm pain and longterm gain should be as of now, the streak is over hand the keys to the young guys and let's see what they got. Which can be very exciting just look at Edmonton, Buffalo, Winnipeg and Toronto tons of reasons for optimism even if they are losing right now. The goal has to be to close the gap to Arizona and Colorado somehow which honestly will be a huge task, we have to hope that both teams are starting to get on a bit of a run here.

The other issue I am having, is we are clearly not making the playoffs. Is this not the time to let either AA or Larkin play center? If these two are supposed to be our future 1C/2C or 2C/3C, dont they need to actually play C? This is the time to experience growing pains when losing doesnt matter, if anything it actually helps us.

I think both AA and Larkin have speed that makes them ideal for wing. They also lack superb defensive ability you want in a center. Who cares what they played in the past. Play them where they fit. Readress that in the future when we need centers.

That's what I want to find out. At the end of the day they are both listed, and were both drafted as center-man. Lets try them at that position, and if they can't cut it, transition them full time to the Wing. I guess my point is that this is the time to see what they can do. In all likelihood, one will be our 2C, the other will probably be traded or be moved to the Wing. I'm hoping 1C, but this year was not a promising one for Larkin as far as 1C is concerned. I would also like to see what they are capable of with a better coach.

Agreed. Should move Helm to 4C and let Larkin be center of one of the top 3 lines.

Going back and reading through this thread, its pretty funny how upset some people were with losing Pulkkinen and Frk through waivers. If you want to criticize Holland, cool, there are many moves he has made that are definitely worth debating good or bad. As far as these two being waived being a mistake, at this point it is not even debatable, they hold zero value, or at best "future considerations" lol.

i'll discuss hockey with ya this summer when I'm in Bay Roberts

Since I wasn't able to watch our cup victories my greatest memory of the streak Game 6 2011 against the Sharks. Wings went down 3:0 early in the series, so every game counted. The won the next two and then traveled to the Joe. A hard fought hockey ensued over the first two periods. Wings put pressure on the Sharks but no goal. The the Sharks lit the lamp with 9 minutes to go in the 3rd. And then this happened: I have never seen the Joe going this nuts before and ever since. Playoff hockey, I already miss you.

It sure was a dream to say I was @DetroitRedWings thank you to my teammates, trainers, staff and fans for the opportunity! 1/2 Forgot that Ott is big Red Wing fan and always wanted to play for us. Really too bad it didn't work out better.

Different era, but what did we do when we were rebuilding around Yzerman? We loaded up with bad boys like Probert and Kocur until we had the premium talent and could shed them. If you're gonna be bad, be bad to the bone

I am Franzen.

A grown up, reasonably aware and educated person, would be smart enough not to walk into a room and talk down to all the people in it. I think LGW would be collectively thrilled if you returned to managing your money.

I post here because I enjoy it. Don't take life too seriously, no one gets out alive anyway

Hands down!

Enjoyed watching Vanek score some goals this year, one of the few worth watching, sad to see him go.

Well considering all those teams have star players in their prime, I'd say they are far more disappointing.

Geez, Kronwall can't even skate...

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